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12-11-2017, 03:52 PM
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Rivet Master
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1972 faucet kitchen sink.
Hey folks
Sorry if this is a really dumb question, but is this a fairly simple swap out for a new faucet? Don’t want to get half way through it and discover it’s difficult, thank you. Original copper pipes ? Easy to connect to modern faucets ?
you
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12-11-2017, 04:05 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 22' International CCD
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1972 faucet kitchen sink.
Assuming the fittings can be unscrewed from underneath, it should be fairly easy. The actual connection to the faucet should be lower down the two copper lines. Look behind the black drain line for a fitting. The picture shows the physical bottom of the faucet, and there should be a nut or other fasteners up higher.
You may need a “Basin wrench” yo get up there.
Another possibility is to cut the copper tubes with a tubing cutter to disassemble it, then it could be spliced back.
Try getting a picture straight up under the faucet before you proceed. Lots of help out here.
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12-11-2017, 04:17 PM
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Easy, Agreed the supply connections are hiding behind the black abs pipe in the pic.
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12-13-2017, 09:48 AM
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Not so easy [emoji30] for some strange reason , both bathroom and kitchen faucet have been hard Plumed into the main system. No connectors at all. This is beyond my skill set probably. Any plumbers out there who can offer advice ?! Thx. Seems very stupid and negligent of Airstream. . These are pics of bathroom faucet. Copper piping from faucet right into main water supply. Maybe they disconnect right at the faucet. I’m nervous of removing only to find fragile and can’t be fixed or replaced with a modern unit. Being no cut off valve, and we’re traveling for the holidays, gonna leave for now.
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12-13-2017, 09:50 AM
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Rivet Master
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Guess I’d have to cut pipes, assume there’s a way of connecting copper pipes to a flexible faucet connector ?
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12-13-2017, 09:54 AM
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Rivet Master
1955 22' Safari
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Yes
Use tubing cutter to cut copper pipe. You can get Sharkbite fittings that have sleeve for copper on one end and threaded connector on the other.
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12-13-2017, 09:57 AM
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Rivet Master
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For example
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12-13-2017, 10:04 AM
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thanks, actually doesn't look all that difficult
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12-13-2017, 10:47 AM
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If all you are trying to do is replace the faucet I would cut the copper tube with a tubing cutter and the use a compression x pipe thread adapter in the size of the new faucet supplies.
pictured is only an example, your sizes/configuration may vary.
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12-13-2017, 10:59 AM
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Compression fitting, properly tightened, is probably more solid than a SharkBite fitting under vibration, etc...
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12-13-2017, 11:19 AM
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I have used both successfully
Quote:
Originally Posted by rmkrum
Compression fitting, properly tightened, is probably more solid than a SharkBite fitting under vibration, etc...
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Either solution should work.
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12-13-2017, 11:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Excella
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Yes both ways will work, Sorry wasn't trying to say my way was better I was just giving my method.
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12-13-2017, 06:18 PM
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Replace the faucet cartridge
Maybe save yourself a ton of work and just replace the faucet cartridge and leave the existing faucet in place????
Greg Anderson
Wisconsin
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12-14-2017, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gdanderson
Maybe save yourself a ton of work and just replace the faucet cartridge and leave the existing faucet in place????
Greg Anderson
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I️ tried that a year or so ago. It’s a very old faucet. But good point. Maybe I’ll try pulling apart again and seeing if the cartridge is available still. I’d kinda given up on that idea.
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12-14-2017, 01:20 PM
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1991 25' Excella
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Is it the cartridge or the swing spout thats leaking? often it's the spout and it's O rings that get corroded and loose seal, can all be fixed but if you end up needing to replace the spout it's not cost effective.
You don't have much to loose though by trying other than a little time, Once you pull off the lever it should be pretty obvious whats hold down the spout.
Looks like a Moen and I think that once you remove the lever and handle the spout will lift straight up and off, been a few years though for me.
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12-14-2017, 09:05 PM
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Good chance the "O" ring on the spout is old and cracked. You Will not beable to find an official Moen replacement "O" ring. It will be necessary to source a hardware or big box store that has a extensive "O" ring selection. I coated the new "O" ring, spout and shank with Vaseline to help with reassembly.
Greg Anderson
Wisconsin
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12-14-2017, 09:07 PM
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Would suggest using silicone plumbers grease instead of Vaseline. Vaseline is a petrochemical product and may damage the o-rings unless they are oil resistant.
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12-15-2017, 11:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlinCal
Is it the cartridge or the swing spout thats leaking? often it's the spout and it's O rings that get corroded and loose seal, can all be fixed but if you end up needing to replace the spout it's not cost effective.
You don't have much to loose though by trying other than a little time, Once you pull off the lever it should be pretty obvious whats hold down the spout.
Looks like a Moen and I think that once you remove the lever and handle the spout will lift straight up and off, been a few years though for me.
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thanks for all the advice here, think i'm going to have to remove the unit, replaced the cartridge and still leaking. to remove, I have to cut the copper so at this point, i'm going to buy a new faucet and be done with it!
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