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Old 07-13-2011, 06:15 PM   #1
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PAR pump not working

I know you guys have seen many questions, and I spent the last 2 nights reading through most posts I could find, and this is the endpoint I got to.

Water is full.

1971 Tradewind - original pump.

Pump runs, but doesn't pump. I replaced hoses, which will need replacing whether pump does or not.

On right inside of cabinet there is a clear plastic filter looking thing, that is empty, and I am figuring this is the intake side of the pump. With both hoses unhooked from pump, I poured water in a funnel into the intake hose, funnel was full, turned pump on, and nothing. Water level in funnel stayed the same.

Just for grins I tried the outlet side also, in case I was wrong in my initial assumption.


I would like to assume that if the pump was working, I should have seen some water movement, or am I missing something.

Thanks for the help!

Colin


I am ready to buy a new pump if I need to, will keep the PAR in case I decide to go back to original someday, and I can rebuild it then. Any suggestions on the exact pump to buy? There are some choices, and I am guessing blindly without some guidance.
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:39 PM   #2
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You can still get replacement parts under the name Jabsco, but I replaced mine with your basic shurflo pump model 2088, about 80 bucks.

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Old 07-13-2011, 07:20 PM   #3
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It may just need priming.

Make sure you have water at the inlet to the pump, then disconnect the discharge hose and run the pump. If you get water, then reconnect the discharge hose and open a faucet.
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Old 07-13-2011, 08:39 PM   #4
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I know you guys have seen many questions, and I spent the last 2 nights reading through most posts I could find, and this is the endpoint I got to.

Water is full.

1971 Tradewind - original pump.

Pump runs, but doesn't pump. I replaced hoses, which will need replacing whether pump does or not.

On right inside of cabinet there is a clear plastic filter looking thing, that is empty, and I am figuring this is the intake side of the pump. With both hoses unhooked from pump, I poured water in a funnel into the intake hose, funnel was full, turned pump on, and nothing. Water level in funnel stayed the same.

Just for grins I tried the outlet side also, in case I was wrong in my initial assumption.


I would like to assume that if the pump was working, I should have seen some water movement, or am I missing something.

Thanks for the help!

Colin


I am ready to buy a new pump if I need to, will keep the PAR in case I decide to go back to original someday, and I can rebuild it then. Any suggestions on the exact pump to buy? There are some choices, and I am guessing blindly without some guidance.
The clear water filter, being that old, more than likely is the problem.

Bypass it and see what happens.

Also the original pumps need to be overhauled every 20 or 25 years.

Kits are still some what available.

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Old 07-14-2011, 01:24 PM   #5
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Pulled the pump out, put it on a bench, and took the motor/pulley off. One of the valves was stuck, popped it open, cleaned it up, and pump works like a charm now.

Now I just have to figure out why I have no water coming out of the hot water lines.

Thanks for the help guys!

Colin

Looks like the Par is going to get me through a few more years. I think the previous owner rebuilt it not long ago.
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Old 07-14-2011, 01:57 PM   #6
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If you don't already have one, an accumulator tank is a nice addition to a PAR system. I did it with mine and it's a world of difference.

SHURflo Nylon Accumulator Tank, 24 oz. #182-200
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Where does that go? Downstream of the pump?
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It goes in the line somewhere on the output side of the pump. Typically a tee is inserted into the line and the accumulator attaches to the tee.
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Yup and if you really want to get fancy install a 3 way valve on the intake side of the pump, then when you want to winterize, the pump can distribute the antifreeze all through the freshwater system.

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Now I just have to figure out why I have no water coming out of the hot water lines.

Thanks for the help guys!

Colin

Looks like the Par is going to get me through a few more years. I think the previous owner rebuilt it not long ago.
I rebuilt my pump with a piece of rubber roofing material (like tire inner tube). You may not have found all the hot water by-pass valves yet, probly still some valves around the hot water tank to find. It's also possible that all the hot water faucets are plugged up with old bits of gaskets and gunk at the same time (been there).
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