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Old 10-17-2012, 06:56 AM   #15
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You may want to put PPL on notice about the poor condition of the unit when you opened the box. Who knows what else could have been damaged when this thing tossed around by the gorilla in the shipping room. (reminds me of the old Samsonite suitcase ads with the gorilla handling luggage).
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Old 10-17-2012, 08:07 AM   #16
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That's a good point, will do today.
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Old 10-17-2012, 12:01 PM   #17
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PPL is great. They offered to ship out a new one, or put a 45 extenion on their return policy. I will try to get it installed and see how it works.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:22 PM   #18
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Well I got the door adapter on the main heater. I attached it with SS self tapping screws. Added a layer of sealer around the joint. Then I cut some shims to try to level out the unit. I plan to add sealer around the edges after I got the unit working. Getting the door to line up was a little tricky, but it worked out ok. .
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:32 PM   #19
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The water lines matched up and are in the same place as the old unit. It was a nice fit. Wiring was very simple, 1 power lead to to hook up and two grounds to hook up. I was able to get the power on and the unit running but without the gas.

I was surprised how loud the blower motor is and how much air it puts out. If anyone already has one of these units I would like to hear if your units is loud when the blower motor motor is running.

I found one water leak inside the unit that was corrected by tightening a compression fitting, and a safety switch had to be adjusted coming out of the exhaust pipe. I think most of these issues were caused by the shipping damage. Once I corrected these problems the unit turned on and was attempting to fire up the burner. How adds more pictures of the installed unit at a later time.

Next will be installing the gas line, fun fun fun crawling back under the old girl.
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:14 PM   #20
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Well I got the gas line hooked up and things seem to be working well so far. The new unit appears to require less water flow to turn on. I have a 1.5 gpm faucet in the kitchen, and I can mix in a little cold water. The temp dial on the new unit works good, and gives a wide rage of temp increases.
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Old 10-31-2012, 03:23 PM   #21
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The outside walls of an AS are not dead straight up. I had to shim the heater a bit to get it to set level on the floor. I questioned how important it really is, but I figured better be safe than sorry.
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Old 11-04-2012, 09:26 AM   #22
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thanks for this. im strongly considering a girard HW heater. i was hoping you could give me your option. I currently have a macy water heater installed under the sink and vented to the (furnace) exhaust opening. (we have no furnace).

the macy is a POS and didn't work well from day 1. after a freeze it totally busted and needs to be replaced.

I want to vent this girard out the furnace exhaust.

The install instructions are pretty lame -

http://greenrvproducts.com/wp-conten...ER-GSWH-1M.pdf

it looks like the black circular bit in the photo vents outside, judging from the hole in the [Girard water heater] door.
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Old 11-04-2012, 10:41 AM   #23
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I guess I could be modified, it was not designed to be used that way. Yes the grey tube sticking out is the exhaust pipe. Behind that is a blower that forces the exhaust out. But it also
Pulls in a bunch of air to feed the burner. So would need to make sure you have plenty of air supply. I think the door has about a 3x4 worth of openings on the door. From fooling around with it, if the burner is on with out the blower, the flames come rolling out the bottom of the burner. So you gotta have the air flow.

It will be easer to winterize, but you will still need to blow it out or add anti freeze.
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Old 11-04-2012, 12:00 PM   #24
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I do hope the newer model is less of a problem to regulate in temperature. The earlier models required 50 PSI of water to operate.
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I do hope the newer model is less of a problem to regulate in temperature. The earlier models required 50 PSI of water to operate.
It looks like it requires less water flow to turn on. Also with the dial you have a much larger range to adjust the heat.
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Fortunately, my Girard 1M arrived from PPL in good shape (no gorilla delivery). I'm looking forward to installing it in my '72 Trade Wind.
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Old 11-12-2012, 10:47 PM   #27
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I installed the replacement unit, it's amazing, with no shipping damage, it fired right up and ran great. My incoming water temp is about 75 degrees, so it was limiting at full temp, but turned down it ran great. Here is a pic of the burners fired up.
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Old 11-12-2012, 11:35 PM   #28
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Thanks for keeping us posted on this. I've seen the updated Girard units for about $550 so I look forward to hearing more about your progress. If it works well, it would be very tempting. You have to go somewhere cold, please, so that we can hear about the full range of incoming water temps.
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