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Old 03-16-2008, 06:16 PM   #1
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Uwe,
I have a '63 Globe Trotter 19'.
I have gutted the inside of shelves and stove and Frig..
Now I am about to work on the water heater. That is a wild arrangement on the outside of a '63 with all the screws and panels.
Anyway, my water heater is round and not square on the top. Is that what you replaced yours with?
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Got any tub ideas? I thought I might take to a Auto Paint place and do a new white gell coat.
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Paris originally placed this post in the http://www.airforums.com/forums/f445...ment-1789.html thread. I've moved Paris' post to its own thread and PM'ed Uwe to increase chances for a good response to his question.

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Old 03-16-2008, 07:26 PM   #3
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Hi Paris, Welcome. About your water heater. Does it work ? Does it leak ? Are there any broken parts ? I would answer these questions before I put any amount of money or time into it. I took my water heater apart after I determined that I could still use it. I saw very little corrosion in the tank and no rust/corrosion on the outside. I still may be buying a new one. Being 40+ years old it still can be temper-mental at times.

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Uwe,
I have a '63 Globe Trotter 19'.
I have gutted the inside of shelves and stove and Frig..
Now I am about to work on the water heater. That is a wild arrangement on the outside of a '63 with all the screws and panels.
Anyway, my water heater is round and not square on the top. Is that what you replaced yours with?
Please see attachments.
Got any tub ideas? I thought I might take to a Auto Paint place and do a new white gell coat.
von
About the water heater: I went with a Suburban 10gal unit to replace the Bowen. Old water heaters are gross inside....
If you're skilled, you can use the old water heater door over the Suburban's flush mount. The Suburban mounts from teh inside, and does not require an outside mounting flange. But, youhave to measure carelully, and be prepared to consult a loval metal shop to make changes to the original water heater door.
About the tub: I contracted a refinishing service to repair my tub. They filled, sanded, and refinished my tub, and they used a 3-part system that became rock hard, and has help up like it was gel coat. Try and find a service in your area that specialze in refinishing shower enclorures for Motels and apartment buildings. Those guys know their stuff and get materials we normally don't have access to.

I hope this helps. If not, keep asking, and we'll find an answer, one way or another....
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btw. that is a nice little trailer, and well worth investing some time and money to get it sorted.
Whatever you do, do it right, this trailer is worth it.
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Old 03-17-2008, 10:48 AM   #6
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Thanks, I will spend the day gathering information for reply.
We really appreciate your help!
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:55 AM   #7
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water heater

I also went with a Suburban 10 gal. gas and elec with electric spark pilot option. I think if I had a do over I could have gone with the 6 gallon size as you will not really use that much hot water all at once. Even with two showers and dish washing there is plenty of hot water. Remember, you are mixing hal fhot and half cold as you use it.

the water only takes about ten minutes to get hot in the morning. I just reach over and click the switch, listen for the gas to ignite (under the bed!) and the hum of the exhaust out the side of the trailer and thank myself every morning for spending the extra for the dsi option. (direct spark ignition)

I like the original vents and reworked the panel to stay as it was.

The old heater is very heavy. The new models are lighter weight.
I think the six gal. is smaller in total size also.
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Old 03-18-2008, 08:30 AM   #8
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Hot Water on Demand yes or no?

You are a cool dude my friend! I like the looks of your installation. What is the wheel well installation? Fresh water? If it is; where did you get the great polimere (sp?) Tank? My wife and I were talking last night and we figured it out from over the years experience that we almost never camp self enclosed. That means we almost always hook up to A.C. and water. We think in our case a Hot Water on Demand A.C. would do the trick. Wish they came with D.C. power but it probably would take a long time to heat. Can you show us the outside vent after your installation? As I get better at navigating this website I will send you a photo of our ideas if that is ok with you>
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How do I attach a photo using HTTP:// ? Where is that? I have my photos in my document file.
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-when doing a "full" reply you can use the "paperclip" to manage attachments (upload them, then insert if you like) and I think the little postcard image in a quick reply would probably do the same thing...

-not to discount pro refinishers since I'm sure they are a superb choice, but many of us have d.i.y.'ed it like this:

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I replaced the Bowen in my '63 with a 6 gallon Attwood and and reused the Bowen door ( I like the look of the Bowen door) ,it took a while to figure it out but you can rework the Bowen door by taking it apart then flipping it inside out , putting it back together and remounting it. The vent will be to the right instead of the left on the door but no one will know it. you still have the original look.
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Nice tip, 63air - I love the look of those old Bowens, too. The more stock the outside looks, in my opinion, the neater it is when you peek inside and see something original or customized.
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You are a cool dude my friend! I like the looks of your installation. What is the wheel well installation? Fresh water? If it is; where did you get the great polimere (sp?) Tank? My wife and I were talking last night and we figured it out from over the years experience that we almost never camp self enclosed. That means we almost always hook up to A.C. and water. We think in our case a Hot Water on Demand A.C. would do the trick. Wish they came with D.C. power but it probably would take a long time to heat. Can you show us the outside vent after your installation? As I get better at navigating this website I will send you a photo of our ideas if that is ok with you>
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How do I attach a photo using HTTP:// ? Where is that? I have my photos in my document file.
I hope I'm the cool friend you are referring too in any case, the tank photo is there to show the Suburban water heater in place from the interior point of view.
The new water tank is from Inca Plastics Inc.. This is a standard size 28 gallon but they also make any size you need.
The water heats up in ten minutes, and then you have hot to warm water all day. That's pretty much on demand for me. I like to run the burner just long enough for the water to get hot, then turn off the switch so it does not come on by itself. Once in the morning and then once at night. On demand is also twice the cost and there may be venting issues?
So if you have lp gas and a charged battery you can have hot water without being plugged in. I head on the news today (fox i think) that the world as we know it will be ending soon so there will not be anywhere to plug into anyway.
so fix up that escape pod, I don't know about you, but arrmaggeon gettin outta' here!

this is the furnace vent, but the same idea as the water heater vent..if you can see the new style vent inside.
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How do I attach a photo using HTTP:// ? Where is that? I have my photos in my document file.
Take a look at http://www.airforums.com/forums/f138...eds-31829.html. Janet replies to threads different than me (thus her 'Go advanced' advice). The 'Manage Attachments' link is always below the text entry area if you click 'Post reply.' Ask if you need further assistance.

You can attach photos either from your hard drive or an http:// source. 600 x 800 pixel is a good size and as big as most members 'puters can reasonably display. Larger photo files use up attachment storage capacities faster.
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:49 PM   #14
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Tankless or full elec/propane?

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I replaced the Bowen in my '63 with a 6 gallon Attwood and and reused the Bowen door ( I like the look of the Bowen door) ,it took a while to figure it out but you can rework the Bowen door by taking it apart then flipping it inside out , putting it back together and remounting it. The vent will be to the right instead of the left on the door but no one will know it. you still have the original look.
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I am going to your profile to see your example and I thank you for your input.
What did you think about the Tankless idea? 10'X5"X3" maybe just as a back up? say in a cubby hole somewhere?
I attached photos thanks to photochop! Paper clip! go figure!
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