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Pariscope · 11-11-2008, 04:45 PM

This is today's work and I am planning a better way of showing progress.
Like a http with picasa.
Anyway here it is for those of you who care to see our restore progress.
Any suggestions on working with all is welcome.
Venting was a brought up issue earlier on the water heater replacement but untill I find out different ... well, I can still deal with it at a later time as we move along.
Thanks to "byamcaravanner" for including us with your time to help.
I will check out venting on water heater as soon as it comes up.
I installed a check valve to keep city water from going to onboard supply tank today as well.

Pariscope · 06-04-2009, 01:17 PM

Hello again, after veiwing some of the other restores associated with Airstream rebuilds I am truely humbled. What a love affair Airstream is for us all. We finally joined WBCCI (#2156) at the Perry Georgia rally in April. "Top of the Georgia" Region 3. Here is how far we have gotten on the interior rebuild: http://www.youtube.com/v/SC6GxUy_y9I...4abd6&border=1

YouTube - Airstream1963 Interior Restoration

Thanks to the work of the Airforums folks we have "YouTube" that plays now! HOW'D THEY DO THAT?
Our other YouTube post's are there as well. We missed not taking "Airbean" on our trip to San Diego this year but everything happens for a reason.
More later in September when we get back home.

Pariscope · 07-26-2009, 01:07 PM

Let's try one more time. Since the last post I have experimented with Windows Movie Maker. This way I can select many more phots at one time > select and put in place holder, add leafing or transitions too. Add script and even sound and video. Took me some time to figure it all out but what a result. Still; I can use more improvement.

YouTube - BeanDream

Pariscope · 11-11-2009, 08:43 PM

Zeppelinium · 11-11-2009, 10:05 PM

If you run your fridge on propane, I hope you're not leaving the left side of the fridge cavity open to the sink plumbing, for two reasons. First, the fridge works only if the space behind it acts like a chimney, so it can only be open at the bottom and top. Second, the fridge flame can produce CO, so you want to make sure it goes out the top of the "chimney" and not into the living space.

Zep

Pariscope · 11-16-2009, 09:58 AM

Hey Zepdawg,
I did not know that. So I understand you say: The frig will only work if it is closed off on either side like a chimney not allowing venting from either side. That is sure enough a big deal! What will happen? Frig won't work? Or not work properly? I don't mind taking it back out and closing off the sides. I removed the Catalitic Space heater too and left that vent open too. I thought I might use it later for a space ventalator fan for removing smells from cooking or whatever. I can easily close it off from the outside and recaulk.
Thanks for your caution!

Zeppelinium · 11-16-2009, 11:08 AM

Oops. If you don't have a good chimney, the fridge still 'works,' but not as efficiently. In really hot weather it may not seem to work at all. What you need to do is encourage vertical air flow in the 'chimney.' So you want the inlet below the fins and the outlet above them. This increases the efficiency of the fins on the back of the fridge. This is true for both propane and electrical operation.

Some of the smaller Airstreams, where an under counter fridge is also under a window, have the outlet right at the top of the fridge. This seems to work, but it doesn't give as good a chimney effect as having the outlet up another two feet or so.

If the sides are open, you risk CO getting inside and killing you. So, all around, making a good airtight chimney is important.

Zep

Pariscope · 11-23-2009, 07:32 AM

Zep, I checked the space out under the counter and see I have a perfect vertical space between sink and frig to do the job. When I removed all the cabinets we did have a good bit of aluminum shrowds blocking off the entire wall beside and on top of the frig. My cabinet maker side I had plenty of ventallation and we let it go. But now I know why and will take measures to do a proper job of it. It makes sence too! Now it's onto finishing up that frig problem and then start the bath sink install.
Happy Thanks Giving!

easyride · 11-23-2009, 10:09 AM

I have heard of someone showing how to build a new water heater cover for the Bowen,does anyone have that link? Dave

Overlander & Sea · 11-23-2009, 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by easyride

I have heard of someone showing how to build a new water heater cover for the Bowen,does anyone have that link? Dave

I this the link that you were thinking about?

Restoration Topics - HW Heater Covers

I don't think it shows a new water heater being used with an old cover.

easyride · 11-24-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Overlander & Sea

I this the link that you were thinking about?

Restoration Topics - HW Heater Covers

I don't think it shows a new water heater being used with an old cover.

Thanks for the link,now if I can just borrow a brake somewhere. Dave

flyfshr · 11-24-2009, 01:00 PM

Here's a couple of pix that were posted elsewhere here on the forums. Wish I could give credit to the installer / fabricator as it is an excellent job and something I plan to do this spring. Still need the 'upper close out plate' but I'm sure it will turn up soon. I have a bit of reworking of the lower perforated section but the rest of the cover is in great shape.

Kudos to the originator of these photos.

Brad
FF

bredlo · 02-13-2010, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyfshr

Here's a couple of pix that were posted elsewhere here on the forums.

Gotta give an extra shout out to Flyfshr - thanks so much for reposing this shot. I can't find the original thread this came from either but it's a brilliant, stealth solution for easily getting access to the water heater. I'm planning on doing this same mod.

In the meantime, Area63 in southern California did a wonderful installation of the replacement cover this past fall, which has served its purpose well until I can get the Bowen retrofitted.

ts8501 · 02-14-2010, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyfshr

Here's a couple of pix that were posted elsewhere here on the forums. Wish I could give credit to the installer / fabricator as it is an excellent job and something I plan to do this spring. Still need the 'upper close out plate' but I'm sure it will turn up soon. I have a bit of reworking of the lower perforated section but the rest of the cover is in great shape.

Kudos to the originator of these photos.

Brad
FF

The person (company) that gets credit for these photos is linked here. Also previously covered on the forums linked here.

Globie64 · 04-11-2010, 06:22 PM

This is a great thread and a huge help. We want to replace our old, round bowen but leave the exterior vent trim, and I think I'm well on my way to understanding how to do it, from all you guys. Thanks

Pariscope · 04-12-2010, 08:10 AM

Good for you! I cannot say much right now but the exterior cowling looks and works terrific for me.
It was a rocky start for sure but I am pleased with the results now.
Cleaned up real nice with alumibrite acid bath too.
More later,
I am here for you if you need photos or any help deciding.
I have the finished inside to show too.
Later,

Globie64 · 04-12-2010, 12:51 PM

Thanks Paris, that is awesome. It's a huge help- the project is kind of daunting, but I'll be in touch.

Peter

11-11-2009, 10:05 PM	#45
Zeppelinium Rivet Master 1973 23' Safari 1977 23' Safari 2018 25' Flying Cloud Palmer Lake , Colorado Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,092	If you run your fridge on propane, I hope you're not leaving the left side of the fridge cavity open to the sink plumbing, for two reasons. First, the fridge works only if the space behind it acts like a chimney, so it can only be open at the bottom and top. Second, the fridge flame can produce CO, so you want to make sure it goes out the top of the "chimney" and not into the living space. Zep __________________ Zep@Charmedquark.net

11-16-2009, 09:58 AM	#46
Pariscope USS REQUIN 481 1963 19' Globetrotter 1988 25' Excella Reynolds , Georgia Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 85 Images: 17	Cool Beans Hey Zepdawg, I did not know that. So I understand you say: The frig will only work if it is closed off on either side like a chimney not allowing venting from either side. That is sure enough a big deal! What will happen? Frig won't work? Or not work properly? I don't mind taking it back out and closing off the sides. I removed the Catalitic Space heater too and left that vent open too. I thought I might use it later for a space ventalator fan for removing smells from cooking or whatever. I can easily close it off from the outside and recaulk. Thanks for your caution! __________________ "rivit,rivit"

11-16-2009, 11:08 AM	#47
Zeppelinium Rivet Master 1973 23' Safari 1977 23' Safari 2018 25' Flying Cloud Palmer Lake , Colorado Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,092	Oops. If you don't have a good chimney, the fridge still 'works,' but not as efficiently. In really hot weather it may not seem to work at all. What you need to do is encourage vertical air flow in the 'chimney.' So you want the inlet below the fins and the outlet above them. This increases the efficiency of the fins on the back of the fridge. This is true for both propane and electrical operation. Some of the smaller Airstreams, where an under counter fridge is also under a window, have the outlet right at the top of the fridge. This seems to work, but it doesn't give as good a chimney effect as having the outlet up another two feet or so. If the sides are open, you risk CO getting inside and killing you. So, all around, making a good airtight chimney is important. Zep __________________ Zep@Charmedquark.net

11-23-2009, 07:32 AM	#48
Pariscope USS REQUIN 481 1963 19' Globetrotter 1988 25' Excella Reynolds , Georgia Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 85 Images: 17	Refrigerator Vent Zep, I checked the space out under the counter and see I have a perfect vertical space between sink and frig to do the job. When I removed all the cabinets we did have a good bit of aluminum shrowds blocking off the entire wall beside and on top of the frig. My cabinet maker side I had plenty of ventallation and we let it go. But now I know why and will take measures to do a proper job of it. It makes sence too! Now it's onto finishing up that frig problem and then start the bath sink install. Happy Thanks Giving! __________________ "rivit,rivit"

11-24-2009, 01:00 PM	#52
flyfshr Vintage Alum. Enthusiast 1959 24' Tradewind Phoenix , Arizona Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream Posts: 4,360 Images: 40	Here's a couple of pix that were posted elsewhere here on the forums. Wish I could give credit to the installer / fabricator as it is an excellent job and something I plan to do this spring. Still need the 'upper close out plate' but I'm sure it will turn up soon. I have a bit of reworking of the lower perforated section but the rest of the cover is in great shape. Kudos to the originator of these photos. Brad FF Attached Thumbnails __________________ 4CU 2699 / AIR 10 / TAC AZ-1 I'm haunted by aluminum. Charter Member of the 4 Corners Unit.

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11-23-2009, 10:09 AM	#49
easyride Rivet Master 1977 27' Overlander 1973 27' Overlander 1963 19' Globetrotter Naples , Florida Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,259 Images: 1	I have heard of someone showing how to build a new water heater cover for the Bowen,does anyone have that link? Dave

04-11-2010, 06:22 PM	#55
Globie64 Rivet Master 1964 19' Globetrotter South Kingstown , Rhode Island Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,406 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 3	This is a great thread and a huge help. We want to replace our old, round bowen but leave the exterior vent trim, and I think I'm well on my way to understanding how to do it, from all you guys. Thanks __________________ Wherever you go, there you are

04-12-2010, 08:10 AM	#56
Pariscope USS REQUIN 481 1963 19' Globetrotter 1988 25' Excella Reynolds , Georgia Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 85 Images: 17	Globie H2O Heater Good for you! I cannot say much right now but the exterior cowling looks and works terrific for me. It was a rocky start for sure but I am pleased with the results now. Cleaned up real nice with alumibrite acid bath too. More later, I am here for you if you need photos or any help deciding. I have the finished inside to show too. Later, __________________ "rivit,rivit"

04-12-2010, 12:51 PM	#57
Globie64 Rivet Master 1964 19' Globetrotter South Kingstown , Rhode Island Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,406 Images: 18 Blog Entries: 3	Thanks Paris, that is awesome. It's a huge help- the project is kind of daunting, but I'll be in touch. Peter __________________ Wherever you go, there you are

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