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Old 06-02-2004, 09:47 AM   #15
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So Kistler, what parks do you plan on visiting in WA?
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Old 06-02-2004, 10:41 AM   #16
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With a little practice you can take a good shower in "one" gallon of water if you want.
I can do it only if I don't wash my hair. If I don't rinse every bit of shampoo out, my heads itches like crazy. Last weekend I figured I use two to three times as much water rinsing my hair as I use washing and rinsing the rest of me.

I can't figure how to get around that. When I'm at home I wash my hair every other day. But camping I wash it every day because I always get sweaty during the day, and the sweat makes my scalp itch. It all comes down to the itchy scalp.
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Old 06-02-2004, 10:44 AM   #17
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It seems to me I could use a little more water in the black tank and it would dump more easily.
Our current MH black tank setup needs more water than previous coaches. We've finally solved the problem by always filling the bowl all the way with water before each flush.
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What I don't know the reasoning for is the separation of black and grey water tanks. It seems to me I could use a little more water in the black tank and it would dump more easily.


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The reason is: well, there are a few. But mainly, there are still places where you can legally and morally dump wash water on the ground. like, on your own property. or boondocking in some places. less to carry around when you leave. its also nice to be able to clean out the slinky with "not-so-nasty" wastewater, after dumping the black tank. it gives the hose (and dump valves) a good rinse.

If I'm on water rationing, I'll use a bucket in the shower to collect water, and dump that into the toilet, or use it for flushing. my shower head has one of those shut-off levers, but it doesn't actually stop the flow; it only slows it down drastically. so when I shut it off, I stick the shower head in the bucket. I also use the bucket to collect that first few seconds of cold water when trying to adjust the temp just right for showering....you can waste a gallon or more of water doing this, and you get quite a few flushes out of that.

what would be nice, though, is a pump system that allows you to transfer water from the grey tank to the black, in situations such as yours. some people have made such retrofits, but it is a bit of an undertaking. But its nice to have the option, should the situation arise. The POs of my trailer never used the freshwater tank or water pump. They never camped anywhere without a full hookup. "whatever". its a free country.
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What I don't know the reasoning for is the separation of black and grey water tanks.
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One also wants to consider the effect of a full combined tank. It will back up into the lowest point, i.e. the shower pan. Not a good thing.

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Well, you guys, can see that is two good reasons for separation. I was just thinking I had "unused capacity"

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The 28' Safari has a combined tank. I for one like the 2 tanks better. I would hate to have the tank overflow into the showerpan....and if push comes to shove, I can loose 335lbs (39 gal x 8.6) of dead weight in a matter of minutes almost anywhere in a pinch....not true if it is mixed with sewage from head. The tank in the newer 28 foot Safari I think is 54 gals combined. That's 464 lbs (approx) of weight you might carry if you can't find a dump station when out boondocking!

Worst case in our Safari and our Bambi would be the weight of 18 gals of black....approx 155lbs.
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StefRoberts-- I think that we will stay most of the time in Olympia at the Olympia Campground and maybe at the Airstream Park in Lacey.....they both have full hook-ups

Colonial Creek (dry camping for sure--water faucet and dump station though) up above Concrete is one where we'd like to stay a while and the Kanaskat-Palmer park near Eunmclaw.... no sure they have any hook-ups at all.

I'm not certain if we will get to Ocean Shores but would like to. This is next summer's plans coupled with BC.

This summer it is Colorado--Estes and then Breckenridge, Durango, etc.

Do you know anything about Kanaskat-Palmer?

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If I'm on water rationing, I'll use a bucket in the shower to collect water, and dump that into the toilet, or use it for flushing. my shower head has one of those shut-off levers, but it doesn't actually stop the flow; it only slows it down drastically. so when I shut it off, I stick the shower head in the bucket.
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Not meaning to second guess your technique, but some showerheads leak because they have a backflow preventer. The backflow preventer is to prevent siphoning contaminated water back into your freshwater system, say if someone leaves the showerhead in a bucket of non-potable water.
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Not meaning to second guess your technique, but some showerheads leak because they have a backflow preventer. The backflow preventer is to prevent siphoning contaminated water back into your freshwater system, say if someone leaves the showerhead in a bucket of non-potable water.
well, if there's a backflow preventer, then I should be all set

seems like its supposed to work this way. is it not? should the flow completely stop when that button is pushed?
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Chuck,
Don't know about your particular model. I just installed a hand held shower in my guest bath and noticed the backflow preventer and instructions. Made sense to me.
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seems like its supposed to work this way. is it not?
Our shuts off completely. We've had others in the past that didn't.
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Kistler, I haven't been to any of those parks. We did stay at Ft Canby, near Ocean Shores, but we were in the tent section (nice to have a small trailer, huh?) because the RV area was full. Nice park. There's so much to do there. I keep hoping we'll get up to Lacey for a weekend in Seattle, but it's so close to home, we usually hit Seattle for a day trip and come back in the evening.

We're going to CO too this summer, for the VAC rally! Big trip for us.

When you get out to WA we'll have to meet up and say hi!
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