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07-20-2008, 05:29 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 25' Tradewind
old mystic
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 320
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We have no tank!
Well Guys Hubby finished pulling the belly pan down today, that in it self was a disgusting mess. But what he didn't find under the belly pan was more puzzling. We have NO grey tank. Everything drain to the rear and is set up for a hook up to outside sewer only. So I guess we'll be putting in a grey tank and while we are at it will do a black tank also. I don't understand why someone would order a AS with no grey tank unless they were only going to camp where they had sewer hookup. Seems kind of dumb to me.
Day 5 of the gutting. Tomorrow we are going to MA to order our axels, tires and rims. Then stopping back in Providence RI to see about replacement tambour for all the door, although I think we are a teeny bit away from reinstalling the cabinets!
Annette
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07-20-2008, 05:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 25' Sovereign
Southern Middle
, Tennessee
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Airstream didn't add gray water tanks until the 1973 model year.
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Craig
AIR #0078
'01 2500hd ext. cab, 8.1 litre gas, 5 sp. Allison auto
3.73 rear end
Mag-Hytec rear diff cover
Amsoil Dual by-pass oil filtration system
Amsoil synthetics all around
265 watt AM Solar, Inc. system
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07-20-2008, 05:36 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
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All units 72 and earlier were without gray tanks. In 73 a few units had them, but in 74 they became mandatory. When boondocking most people prior to 74 just hooked up a hose and let it run on the ground. Laws have changed and that practice is now illegal in many (but not all) places.
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Richard
Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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07-20-2008, 05:44 PM
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and there are issues related to ADDING a tank...
especially IF you plan to put it aft.
bd'mom...
here is a suggestion that u r free to ignore.
-uwanted a trailer
-ufound a trailer
-ugot her home
-u r now taking it appart
-u hope to put it back2gether
consider starting just ONE LONG THREAD on the process.
those that can or want to help,
will be better able to review what it is
and what's been done...
you might end up with one of those really long, really neat, full monty type threads
full of pictures, wisdom, humor, aluminum, parts and rivets...
AND
with 1000s of hits n replies.
u have read some of those neat-o threads right?
the 1st step is a swanky title for the trailer and your misadventures.
-no tanks 4 u...
-what were they smoking in '72 ?
-the nixon years trailer
-putting humpty back2gether
-the mystic pizza hut...
-measure twice, connecticut once
and so on.
cheers
2air'
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07-20-2008, 06:02 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 25' Tradewind
old mystic
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 320
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OK , no grey tank until 72. So were did the toilet flushing go? You could only use it when you were hooked up to sewer? New to all this airstream stuff. But hey I did learn what the banana wrap was today!
2airishuman, Tomorrow when I post I will start a thread with a fun title, and keep adding to it. I shall take your advice and not ignore it!
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07-20-2008, 06:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bullydogsmom
So were did the toilet flushing go?!...
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this IS one of the great mysteries in a/s ownership...
and once u find out, don't tell the outsiders!
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f161...ing-40796.html
got chili?
cheers
2air'
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we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
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07-20-2008, 06:20 PM
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Rivet Master
1964 17' Bambi II
Vintage Kin Owner
Schererville
, Indiana
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,637
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The toilet goes into the black tank & the shower/sinks go into the grey tank. The grey water drained out the back.
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1964 Bambi II
1988 Avion 32S
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07-20-2008, 06:24 PM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,606
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bullydogsmom
OK , no grey tank until 72. So were did the toilet flushing go? You could only use it when you were hooked up to sewer? New to all this airstream stuff. But hey I did learn what the banana wrap was today!
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The black water stuff exits the trailer through the same pipe as the gray water. There should be a T handle located inside the rear bumper area to open and close the valve to the black tank.
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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07-20-2008, 06:34 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 25' Tradewind
old mystic
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 320
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OK 2airishuman let's cut the crap. I don't have a black tank and I don't have a grey tank. SO everything use to go onto the ground or got carried away in gramma cooking pot? I think this means I should be staying at The Holiday Inne! I've got a lot to learn about this camping thing. All I wanted to do was take the 2 grandkids to MT Rushmore next summer!
You're not scaring me away, I'll get the hang of this stuff, just give me time!
Annette
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07-20-2008, 06:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 25' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Campton
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,113
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So what year corvette is Bullydog sitting in?
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07-20-2008, 07:16 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
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could this be a "park model"?
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2012 F150 Super Crew 5-1/2' bed Ecoboost 4x4 3.73 elec. lock diff. Propride hitch
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07-20-2008, 07:26 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1976 Argosy 26
Oxford
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jun 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bullydogsmom
OK 2airishuman let's cut the crap. I don't have a black tank and I don't have a grey tank.
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You MUST have a black water tank?...that had to be part of the basic install.
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07-20-2008, 07:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Loganville
, Georgia
Join Date: Nov 2007
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I have 73 overlander and I had Inca plastics in california make one for me.
Inca Plastics Inc. - RV Tanks
I will send you a pic and sketch I sent Inca in california. I do not know if my pic will help but it might. My suggestion is to get the exact dimensions of the orginal tank. I just finished restoring my 73 and I found it very important to go with orginal specs when doing the black tank. You will need a box to hold the tank. Any airconditioner sheet metal place can make it for you. There are tons of threads with instructions on what to do. Picture also.
My restoration http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...n-38204-5.html
SIU Bound
Brian
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07-20-2008, 08:50 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 25' Tradewind
Madison
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 396
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blue boy
Just park a blue boy and hook it up to catch the grey water. I keep 3 blue boys (15 gal each). One for catch grey water, one for back and one to hook up while I am emptying the other two .
The black water discharge is controlled by the valve at the back (T handle). Grey water just flows out the discharge pipe.
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07-20-2008, 08:56 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
North Vancouver
, British Columbia
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,421
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Your toilet is raised above the floor, no? That raised step is the black tank. It sits above the floor and empties via the outlet at the rear.
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North Vancouver, BC
Live! Life's a banquet and most poor suckers are starving to death! - Mame Dennis
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07-21-2008, 03:02 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1972 25' Tradewind
old mystic
, Connecticut
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 320
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OK I guess we have found the black tank under the toilet. Not very big is it? But NO grey water tank.
2air' I couldn't stop laughing after reading your link. But I'll tell ya, I'm not carrying it in a blue boy or grammas pot!
Brian, the grey tank will happen probably next week. If we cant find one to fit, I wil contact you. Thanks.
ticki2 its a 1959.
Annette
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07-21-2008, 03:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1973 27' Overlander
Loganville
, Georgia
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,741
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Annette:
That black tank in the back is the only waste tank you have. Your trailer lets sewage from the toilet go into the black tank. Your soapy water from your sinks and tubs goes past the black tank to the ground. You will have to buy a portable tank to put your soapy water in for dumping. Back in the day people just let it go on the ground but laws have changed. Most soapy water is phosphate based and that is bad for streams, rivers and lakes. Algae will explode in phosphate and kill the fish.
I camp at my own property and I let the soapy water on the ground. All it does is fertilize the lawn and make its roots system stronger, and it is good for flower and seed production.
Brian
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