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Old 05-17-2015, 10:04 AM   #1
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Toilet or Not? 67 Ambassador Remodel

Hey everyone. I'm looking for some opinions here on if I should leave the black and grey water tanks and keep the toilet system in the original area. The interior is gutted and the sub-floor needs replaced in that area regardless, so that is why I'm at that cross road. It would be easy to do now before I get too involved. IMHO I do not like sleeping near a toilet that is in close proximity. Plus the upkeep and maintenance is troublesome. There are many alternatives when it comes to "doing your business" and that is why I'm not a on board toilet advocate. I do not know much about the systems either. BUT I am in a market of selling not keeping so that is what this thread is all about. Guidance and opinions, if anyone has any advice or opinions on what road I should go down please respond. Thanks!
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You say that the trailer will be for sale. Personally I would not even consider a travel trailer without a toilet. If you are not going to keep the trailer keep it as originally laid out. Otherwise I think you will be seriously turning many potential customers off.
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:12 AM   #3
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Old 05-17-2015, 10:22 AM   #4
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Gray tank in a 67? Jim
Sorry I may be wrong about that, like I said I am not real familiar with these systems. I have only dealt with fresh water installs.
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Even if you don't want a toilet, the next owners may. You can remove the toilet and plug the drain and leave the black tank installed. Still there if anyone changes their mind. Up keep and maintenance are pretty much as with your house. Of course it needs to be drained, a minor thing to experience campers. I'd be looking to install a small gray tank. Jim
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Even if you don't want a toilet, the next owners may. You can remove the toilet and plug the drain and leave the black tank installed. Still there if anyone changes their mind. Up keep and maintenance are pretty much as with your house. Of course it needs to be drained, a minor thing to experience campers. I'd be looking to install a small gray tank. Jim
So the grey tank is for just used water right? Rather than just discharging it onto the ground?
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toilet or no

I'm redesigning a 2003 CCD internation and I've removed the toilet and will install a Natures Head Composting toilet. The black water tank will be used for additional grey water storage. I will keep the shower.
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You could never convince me, nor a majority of people buying a used RV that one without a toilet is acceptable. You may not want one, but about 90+ % of others do.
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So I'm starting to understand the majority wants the commodity. What are some alternative toilets? Or should I stick with a black tank and just upgrade it to working condition, because I don't think the plumbing is salvageable...
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I'm redesigning a 2003 CCD internation and I've removed the toilet and will install a Natures Head Composting toilet. The black water tank will be used for additional grey water storage. I will keep the shower.
What are the Pros and Cons of a composting toilet? I'm not familiar with any toilet system in an RV. I'm only use to a standard home toilet. I guess I've got a lot of homework to do...
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Gray water cannot be discharged onto the ground in most states legally. Used to was, but not now. Jim
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Composting toilets and portopottys are an alternative to a real toilet. Pottos are generally used in trailers that either never had a toilet or had one removed. Much more of a hassel than a real toilet. Composters are a fad thing in my opinion. The waste still has to be disposed of sanitarily. Jim
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From what I know about composting toilets (no personal experience, for a reason), that choice would never be on my options list. I'm in agreement with those who say a toilet is a must and that means also having an easily emptied holding tank. My own experience with vintage says *separate* black and grey tanks, and a separate dump valves for each, are the best (IMO, the only acceptable) way to go, whether you keep this trailer or sell it. When I first acquired my still-very-often-used '56, it had no installed black nor grey tanks; the PO used a portable "camping potty" that has a built-in tank at bottom, and these are still widely available, and ~could~ be a solution for you (but, I'm willing to bet you won't like the frequent carrying/emptying duties involved with their very high yuck factors). Who knows what the original owner did with the original toilet system (I'm not even sure that mid-50s ASs' toilets even had a black holding tank under them???) I installed one tank at first, for both black and grey, but quickly determined that it is far better to have 2 tanks for maximum flexibility when on the road and/or in campgrounds with their highly variable sewage infrastructures, oftentimes none at all in the less developed sites, state parks, and the like. Anyway, for any DIY'er, installing black and gray tanks and all the associated plumbing/venting is not at all difficult and not expensive either. Good luck with the project, whatever you decide!
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A trailer is no use to me with no toilet. I would install both gray and black water tanks and a nice new toilet. I do not think sleeping next to a compost toilet or a incinerator toilet would be an improvement over sleeping next to a regular toilet. There is really little upkeep on a standard RV toilet. More so, I would think, on the alternatives
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