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Old 07-04-2007, 07:22 PM   #29
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Old 07-05-2007, 08:22 AM   #30
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Then I remembered pulling out the batteries for cleaning and recalibrating the Actibrake controler for my new Hays Genisis controler. Im wondering if when you take the power off the panel, the system needs to be recalibrated. If so Im going to make my own bypass calibration tank.
That shouldn't be an issue. I pull the batteries out every year when I winterize and I've never had to recalibrate. You still might have a faulty panel. You might give the Catcon folks a call. Don't forget it's still within its 5 year warranty.

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Old 07-05-2007, 08:53 AM   #31
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On my 71 and 73 the sensors, clock, thermometer didn't work when I got the coaches and I never bothered to try to fix them. Seemed more effort than it was worth at least to me. Someday I will stick something that fits and does something in the clock and thermometer holes

I notice all the other posts are from, at least what I would call, late model units. What's up with that? Anybody who has a vintage coach have working guages and sensors, and what's the secret?
Don't know any secrets , my '76 has always worked fairly accurate . Below each gauge on the panel there is a small hole with an adjustment screw for fine tuning . In my Service Manual there are 2 pages of checks and adjustment of the gauges and probes including resistor values . Because of there location ( at the tank ) I would suspect corrosion at the wire connection to the probe to be a problem or a bad resistor . Good luck

PS If you are going to chuck your thermometer I'd like to experiment with repairing one .
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Old 07-05-2007, 09:56 AM   #32
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Where are the inventors and technical wizards???

Think its time to reinvent this wheel. One would think there is a way to improve on the sensing technology in these tanks.

Our black water sensor has never worked and I would like to come up with a way of monitoring it without the problematic conventional method.

Lets have some ideas!!!!
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Old 07-05-2007, 10:33 AM   #33
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Well guess what? It must be my turn. As noted black and grey sensors work OK most of the time. I have never had problems with my Fresh tank gauge...until this weekend!
Worked fine 2 weeks ago. Fill up this weekend...nothing, still reads "E". Never lit up all weekend.
As you can guess, black and grey are not really a big deal.
Fresh water however, is a little more critical!
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You can't really put any cleaners in your fresh...
I guess I could do the ice cube thing next time?

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We have been having the same problem in our Safari. Airstream had replaced and reset the panel but problem still exists. We get a flashing red light at about 1/2 empty/full. Very scarry the first time it failed and we were boondocking! We have just resigned ourselves that it will never be right.
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Old 07-05-2007, 11:04 AM   #34
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Where are the inventors and technical wizards???

Think its time to reinvent this wheel. One would think there is a way to improve on the sensing technology in these tanks.

Our black water sensor has never worked and I would like to come up with a way of monitoring it without the problematic conventional method.

Lets have some ideas!!!!
Well the technology did change but obviously it still has some problems. The current sensor technology is vastly superior to the old foil sensors that were used in the older tanks. For all intents contents of the tank cannot deteriorate the sensors. The old ice cube treatment will not do a thing for you.

As having a trailer that now has been used for four seasons. All of my tanks are still sensing correctly including the black water....and most of you know that in the older technology, that tank almost universally had sensor problems from the point you started using it.

If you are still having the problem then the dealer hasn't done their job. The system does work, but question lies as to whether the dealer did the recalibration correctly. If he did, and the panel is OK, then the problem lies directly with the wiring or the sensor.

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Old 07-05-2007, 01:12 PM   #35
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Bad sensors

We've had our Bambi SE since last October. After our last outing, our fresh water sensor stopped "reporting" all together! The black water sensor has also been erratic. Now, only grey and black water + battery status report. That did it! I've got an appointment with a local Airstream repair place tomorrow to replace the panel. The repair shop is well-aware of the sensor issue, and doesn't have a lot of confidence in the factory standard response: "We're working on it" (!).
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Old 07-05-2007, 01:43 PM   #36
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Looks like someone was thinking "out of the box" with this idea. The sensor resides externally. Anyone try this system?

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Ah hah! I've got it! If the vent stack goes straight down into the black tank we'll just drop a light weight rod - with a flotation bulb on the end - right down into the tank. We'll mark the top of the rod with the tank levels, where it projects out of the vent stack, and, Eureka! - we have the solution! This, of course, overcomes my original problem of having to put the "stinky" stick in the closet to dry! I think that a red flag flying from the stick would be very attractive! This could start a whole new rally game - and solve the age old problem of trying to figure out if your neighbor is really full of it!
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I've written before about how I think the tank sensor system sucks on AS's. I have not wasted much time on trying to correct the issue only because everything I've read either doesn't work or works only temporarily.

Our latest fiasco is now when I press the check button, the only tank it checks is the fresh water. It does that for a few more actuations, and finally I get lucky and it reads fresh, black, gray, and battery.

All of the readings are off. We rarely use this thing and wish there was a credit you could get from the company if you decide to order a trailer WITHOUT this set up.

Pardon my sewer vent....

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Old 07-05-2007, 09:41 PM   #39
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Looks like someone was thinking "out of the box" with this idea. The sensor resides externally. Anyone try this system?

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Our 2004 CCD had this sensor system. It always worked. Our 2008 has the same one everyone complains about and I found out last week that our black tank sensor only reports empty regardless of the volume in it.

I was disappointed when I saw our new one didn't have the SeeLevel system.
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our black, grey, and freshwater tank sensor hasn't worked a full day in it's lifetime.

My father said one day "I fixed it!". He just turned the POS off. I may calibrate this year and see if I can get it working.

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Well my water tank always shows 1/2 to 3/4 full even when it is almost empty. Before we leave the campground I fill the water tank for daily toilet use. I guess I could repair but why worry about the small stuff. Streamin is fun. Last trip the sink water line leaked. last owner jerry rigged the plumbing so I had to fix it.
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:08 PM   #42
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Well after some more analysis I still am no better off. I get resistance in the wires but the panel still reads "E" for black-grey-fresh. Battery level works fine.
Does this mean the board is toast?
Is there a source for this board (1989)?

Thanx, B
Still looking for a source for replacing this board...any ideas?

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