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Old 09-26-2006, 09:44 AM   #15
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I've got an '05 CCD and an '06 Safari Special Edition. Both take the standard Thetford connector. I've looked at the older ones and the Valterra is definitely a smaller diameter... it isn't a quality problem that causes the leak, it's that the Thetford fitting is too loose for a Valterra.

I do use the Sewer Solution and yepper it works great, and stinks less. It's VERY easy to make sure that there is nothing left in the hose. The hose material is thicker than a garden hose so having it develop a hole is very unlikely and no odor permeates through it. Having gas back up into your tank from the sewer seems less likely too. I rarely have to flush any solid waste down the hose. If you let "it" build up in your black tank for two to five days (depending on occupancy and amount of beans eaten), it will all dissolve into a fluid state. The newer units also have a tank flush system and eeeewwwhhh! it works well.

If you have any solids left they MAY clog the Sewer Solution where the hose connects. The fitting is clear so you can see the problem easily. The SS kit contains a backflow protected quick connect fitting that I attach to a green hose. It blasts the crap to little tiny pieces... and you can aim it and move it back and forth to accomplish this.

I never use the stinky slinky. If my tanks are very full and there was no sewer hookup I dump when there are no lines, or only partially dump. Nothing scrubs your tanks like going down the road with six gallons in them. Dump at the end of a trip and you'll really have waste that is both shaken AND stirred.

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Old 09-26-2006, 10:05 AM   #16
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Anyone try this http://www.sewersolution.com/basic.htm

Claims the SewerSolution System includes SewerSolution pump unit, a 10' length of Dump Hose and the Full Hookup Adapter Kit. Everything you need to get started! Additional 10' Hose Kits are available to extend the range of your SewerSolution.
The SewerSolution Jet Pump is molded from high strength clear Lexan polycarbonate plastic. The jet nozzle swivels to switch from the Dump to Flush mode. It looks like about $90.
Lipets,

That is the same one I recommended back in post #2 and I think it is the same one Foiled Again is using. I use it all the time when I can. We use it a lot at the house when there are multiple RV's parked there. I only have one sewer hookup available but on occasion have had up to 4 RV's parked there (being used) so we make a morning of pumping out everyone's black tanks typically we run gray out on the ground into the woods or gardens.

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Old 09-26-2006, 10:32 AM   #17
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I also would most highly recommend the Flush King. The Flush King has become my best "sewer buddy".
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Old 09-26-2006, 10:37 AM   #18
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Ok, that's the one I'll get.

Is that place the best place to get it?

They appear to be the manufacturer are they.
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Old 09-26-2006, 12:58 PM   #19
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My '06 has the flush system and so far I have found that if I let it run for the recommended two minutes, the sewer hose is stinky when I disconnect; if I let it run for 10 minutes, there is no smell in the sewer hose when I disconnect. I haven't used it enough to tell what the optimum length of use is, but I have definately found that two minutes is not it!

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Old 09-26-2006, 10:20 PM   #20
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Your trailer was originally built with Thetford sewer fittings. Unless a PO changed them out to Valterra, make sure you end up with compatible sewer fittings or appropriate adapters. Thetford and Valterra don't mix - they will leak; not a good thing.
Hi, "Safari's have Thetford and Classic's have Valterra". Or something like that. My 2005 Safari came with a crappy 10' sewer hose; So I went out to the nearest RV store and bought a good quality 20' hose kit. Works fine. My real question is: Today I recieved my new Camping World Fall 2006 sales magazine and on pages 22, 23, and 24 are three pages of sewer hoses and adapters Etc. I see no mention of anything on these pages declaring different parts for different brands or sizes required for different RVs. Or can I assume that, after a certain date, these become standard for all RVs?

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Old 09-26-2006, 10:29 PM   #21
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Bob,Assume nothing. If your Safari does indeed have a Thetford outlet, you either need to use a Thetford/Valterra adapter (another joint for potential leakage - I have to use this with the Flush King since it has Valterra fittings) or install Thetford end fittings on the hose. From looking at hose kits from CW, (not just plain hoses with no fittings) these appear to be Valterra.
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Old 09-27-2006, 08:08 AM   #22
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Bob,Assume nothing. If your Safari does indeed have a Thetford outlet, you either need to use a Thetford/Valterra adapter (another joint for potential leakage - I have to use this with the Flush King since it has Valterra fittings) or install Thetford end fittings on the hose. From looking at hose kits from CW, (not just plain hoses with no fittings) these appear to be Valterra.
I have bought an additional 10' hose, a coupler, and a 90 degree elbow with adapter for sewer inlet on separate occassions and I didn't see anything anywhere that said any of these pieces were made to fit either Thetford or Valterra. For the neophite like me, how would I be expected to know if I didn't have the "industry" standard. Had I ordered these items and had to ship them back, it could get kind of expensive in shipping charges. I don't recall CW's return policy right off hand, but there are other suppliers that might regard that as the purchaser's responsibility.
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For the neophite like me, how would I be expected to know if I didn't have the "industry" standard. Had I ordered these items and had to ship them back, it could get kind of expensive in shipping charges. I don't recall CW's return policy right off hand, but there are other suppliers that might regard that as the purchaser's responsibility.
I wouldn't say that Valterra is the "industry standard" by any means. Valterra parts are cheaper and therefore more common in the white box world.

Only the adapter that directly attaches to your trailer needs to differ between Valterra and Thetford installations. Everything else is common sizes. At the most, you would have to return one piece unless you bought a kit that included Valterra fittings.

Having had both and still having some Valterra parts laying around in my parts boxes, I am a fan of the Thetford attachment. Both work equally well, however the Thetford fitting is clearly a higher quality part. The "ears" on the Thetford fitting are a bit different and I find that they twist on more easily and never seem to hang up like I have had Valterra fittings do. I have had some Valterra fittings that had a catch while being put on and then became very reluctant to come back off.
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Hi, Being curious, I went out to look at my trailer tonight and it says Valterra on the sewer pipe near the cap. But I still haven't seen anything stateing: "For use with Thetford only" or "For use with Valterra only" on any sewer sets or fittings. Any one else out there see this in print somewhere?

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I use my Sewer Solution about 99% of the time. For a quick dump at the campground dump station I gots the regular old SSSS...(Super Stinky Sewer Slinky)

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Wahoonc, why not 100% of the time? I would think after using the Sewer Solution system you would not want to use th 4xS anymore!
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How about a recommendation on a good brand of sewer hose. I buy a new blue hose at my local hardware store for each trip as they all get little pin hole leaks by the end of the trip. Were do I get a stout one that will last? Jamie
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Old 09-28-2006, 12:07 PM   #27
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Were do I get a stout one that will last? Jamie
Well, you don't get one that will last at that hardware store!

I would expect a hose to last at least one season or more than likely several seasons. We've used the one that came with our Airstream from the factory on seven trips this summer and so far there are no pin holes in it yet. The one we have is black, no idea of the brand.
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Wahoonc, why not 100% of the time? I would think after using the Sewer Solution system you would not want to use th 4xS anymore!
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At some campground dump stations there is not enough water pressure or any way to hook up to the water. Those are the few times I don't use it. The sewer solution is an awesome piece of equipment. I also use pvc for an extension rather than a longer piece of hose. We just rinse it and store it under the porch for the next time. In the campgrounds the flex hose works fine.

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