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Old 06-15-2016, 02:16 PM   #15
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There is no logical reason to use the tote for gray only. The tote is nothing more than a mobile version of your onboard tanks.
Our black tank will last 2 weeks, longest stay away from full hookups. We don't really need to empty before we leave. The gray tank fills up pretty fast so the 15 gallon works out nice. We have an SUV so we don't put it in there. I leave it outside until the day before we leave and then scrub it down inside and out. I leave a little bleach inside and make sure the caps are tight. It's worked out well so far.
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Old 06-15-2016, 02:52 PM   #16
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We generally fill the 37-gallon gray tank in three days, black tank about half full after four days which is the longest we have camped without full hook-ups. We have a 22-gallon tote that I fill with the provided short slinky and dump valve partially open to control flow. I then hand pull the tote to a dishwater dump point and since the tote is taller than the dishwater dump I can empty half of the tote with it standing up alongside the disposal cowling. At this point, the tote weighs about 80 lbs. so I pull it on top of the cowling on end to finish draining the tote. I am thinking about getting a small water pump to fill the tote while it is in the bed of the truck to make the process easier. This could be easily done by using the Sewer Solution dump cap with its hose to the pump.
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Old 06-15-2016, 04:11 PM   #17
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We use the Barker 16 gal four-wheeled tote. It fits upright against the back wall of the pick-up bed under the SnugTop. It seemed to be the best compromise between size and capacity. It is invaluable when needed and well made. Purchased through Amazon. Larger sizes come with pneumatic tires.

We only use it for grey water since we hardly ever use the toilet. Only used for the occasional middle of the night pee. No "solids" have ever been introduced to the black water tank. In my view, why bother when there are facilities nearby?
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Old 06-15-2016, 07:46 PM   #18
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I have the 25 gallon Tote n Store, and have the same comments as "richw46" Post #12. I have a Hensley so I have to remember to bring the small ball hitch s I can pull it to the dump station. Like Rich, I found it easier to just up-end the rig and then wash down the dump station. I have only used it for grey water. At least you can use a small hose to fill it and see the level. Filling from the AS the one time I used it was facilitated by the AS being blocked up on the street-side. Could be a problem using a sewer hose if the AS was on level ground as Rich notes there is not much elevation from AS to Tank
I would never have purchased one of these...very pricey...but it came with my Classic.
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:24 PM   #19
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We have a 19' FC with a gray water tank of 21 gallons and have installed a composting toilet. We use a 18 gallon SmartTote 2. To save my back and also to get around the lack of drop from the tank valves on the Airstream, we have a 12V pump and a hose to allow us to fill the tote while it is in the back of the TV. Then we drive the TV to the dump station and use an additional slinky extension to empty the tote. The result is no heavy lifting and no worries about weak wheels on the tote. The negative is storage space for the pump, gray water hose and tote.
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Old 06-16-2016, 12:43 AM   #20
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Not to hijack the thread, but a word of caution letting the tanks, particularly the black tank, get too full. I have had trouble with the MicroPulse sensors getting dirty and the "no fuss flush" sprayer getting clogged up after the tanks filled up. The usual remedies work, but not always. I would try to avoid all this when possible. Sometime the situation dictates otherwise and good multiple flush outs on both tanks is always a good preventive measure.
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Old 06-16-2016, 05:57 AM   #21
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Thanks for all of the ideas.

We are heading out in a couple of weeks and will be utilizing the tote we bought (12 gallon) for the first time in the field.

When we "tested" at home during our de-winterization, we found that using the adapter for the 4 inch opening -to-garden hose on the trailer waste hookup allowed the simplest draining of the gray tank. In that you could easily scoot the waste tank away from the trailer by the length of the garden hose, and get enough slope to overcome the difference in height from the top of the portable tank and the trailer to get the water flowing.

We too only use black for liquids, and will be using the gray for showering. We will be staying at a national park with no water or sewer or showers and anticipate dumping gray every day so we can shower.

Has anyone added any kind of strap/handle onto their "smaller" 12 gallon tank to make it easier for 2 people to lift into the truck? I am pondering this one. Thinking maybe some type of harness tied around made from rope or straps to give a grab point on the opposite side of the handle.
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Old 06-16-2016, 07:02 AM   #22
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We use the Barker 16 gal four-wheeled tote. It fits upright against the back wall of the pick-up bed under the SnugTop. It seemed to be the best compromise between size and capacity. It is invaluable when needed and well made. Purchased through Amazon. Larger sizes come with pneumatic tires.

We only use it for grey water since we hardly ever use the toilet. Only used for the occasional middle of the night pee. No "solids" have ever been introduced to the black water tank. In my view, why bother when there are facilities nearby?
Some of us use the on board toilet because we choose not to use a public one. Don't know who used the cg facilities before you. I once had a job cleaning toilets and decided then that I would only use a public one if absolutely necessary. People are nasty!! It's nice to know who slept in the bed the night before and who showered and pooped in the bathroom yesterday. I've had to mop the walls to get the poop off, use a shovel to pick up adult diapers tossed against the wall and piled in the corner, scraped poop off door handles and sinks and hose down the floor because someone decided not to use the toilet but the floor. That's why I use the toilet in my Avion. Sorry for the rant!! Just because it looks doesn't mean it was disinfected.
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My last post was a hijack, I got carried away, sorry.
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Old 06-17-2016, 06:23 AM   #24
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Guskmg, another reason for not letting your tanks, especially the black, get totally full is you're screwed if there is a problem with a handle coming off or something coming lose that you can't easily get to.

Also, we don't use public facilities unless absolutely necessary. We have spent a lot of money, and time, with RVs over the years in order to sleep in our own bed, use our own shower and toilet. It is our home away from home.

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Has anyone added any kind of strap/handle onto their "smaller" 12 gallon tank to make it easier for 2 people to lift into the truck? I am pondering this one. Thinking maybe some type of harness tied around made from rope or straps to give a grab point on the opposite side of the handle.
Best handled by means of a simple sling— a strap that wraps around the tote and provides a handhold.

Double-wrap the strap, so you have two loops. As you grab one loop, the other loop pulls tight around the tote to keep the sling from shifting.

The sling may be in the form of a belt, with a buckle to make it easier to adjust the length and to wrap it around even when the tote is already full. If so, use a side-squeeze buckle; they're more secure.
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Old 06-19-2016, 07:47 PM   #26
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We are heading out in a couple of weeks and will be utilizing the tote we bought (12 gallon) for the first time in the field.
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Thanks again for the post on the 20-footer thread. Where are you going to store your tote when you are on the road? I think the 12-gallon size would just fit slipped on edge between our FC20 stainless rock guards and the cover for the propane tanks.

Maybe inside our van tow vehicle is the better place as the empty tote is fairly light and can be kept in a plastic bag? [grey water use only BTW]

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We will probably have it in the pickup truck bed.

I double-wrapped a tiedown strap (since I had one anyway) onto the tote and think that will work fine as a grab point to lift the full tote into the truck.
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tote is higher than dump valve

I used a tote for the time last month. I bought the largest Barker Tote.
The problem is the tote is higher than the AS dump value, how do you get the watewr to flow up to the tote?
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