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Old 12-29-2014, 04:33 PM   #1
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Question Problems with black tank clogging above tank?

Sorry for the lousy description here, tried searching, but the terms are probably limiting my results.

So our tank is empty, and you know how there is the opening that is cone shaped under the toilet above the tank, it seems to be getting blocked easily and the waste is not falling down into the tank. We have to use a stick and keep pushing it thru and then everything falls down into the tank.

I've done yelled at the wife already about TP, and we use the stuff for RV's that is rated for black tanks, but still, when I flush I can see it all sitting there.

Anyone have any ideas, or solutions or toilet edict we should be following?

Even filling up the whole bowl isn't moving it.

Maybe our TP is the problem. Really don't want to keep jamming a stick in there, as that's gross, and requires me to bag and dispose of said stick.

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More fiber???
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Since the blockage is occurring between the toilet and the black tank entrance my guess is that too much TP is being used to take care of business. We keep the TP usage to the minimum and keep the solids to liquid ratio at 2:1, or better yet 3:1.
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Whatever you do DO NOT POST ANY PICTURES!!

Seriously, I would first try to fill the bowl with more water before you use the toilet for any solid waste discharge (at least halfway if not 3/4.) And if necessary, plan a "two flush" approach, the first one for human waste and the second for the TP.

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Since the blockage is occurring between the toilet and the black tank entrance my guess is that too much TP is being used to take care of business. We keep the TP usage to the minimum and keep the solids to liquid ratio at 2:1, or better yet 3:1.
I am virtually 100% certain that Kevin has misspoken here and that his recommended ratios for water to solids are reversed. More water is definitely better!
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:51 PM   #6
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I second the more fiber and don't post any pictures.

If when the toilet is clear and you open the valve, and it opens all the way, and can not see an obstruction under the toilet you are dealing with a medical issue.

I can see this one taking off.
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It's different in Florida. Could be a gator or cottonmouth in there.


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Well I was going to instagram a picture for you all, but now...

I filled up the bowel, flushed it, water all went down, I think it's the TP. As it seems like it's just sticking to the sides, despite being soaked. I also, opened the valve and emptied the tank again, although we have only been here 1 day.

I mean, I know I had a big steak dinner and some chili and all

Guess I'll just keep some paint sticks handy. Sigh.
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You could have a garden hose with a high pressure nozzle attached ready on the floor when you need it..then you would not need a stick...
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I am virtually 100% certain that Kevin has misspoken here and that his recommended ratios for water to solids are reversed. More water is definitely better!

Yep. The ratio should be reversed. Next libation of choice is on me Bob.
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Well... a suggestion... fill the bowl 1/2 - 2/3 full of water before 'the go'.. keep as much water as possible before you take your seat.

After most of your deposit is complete, lightly clean then FLUSH! If you do not get a 'swoosh', I wonder if your vent line is restricted? Must HAVE vent air for the 'flush' to work properly.

Then, fill bowl again.. and finish cleanup... fill then flush again.
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Problems with black tank clogging above tank?

Look up the GEO method. That'll keep you reading awhile on WOODALLS. And use a strong amount of CALGON water softener. You can also get wands that affix to the water hose. Snake hose through window. Easiest to remove toilet the first bad time. Back in the good old sexist days this was one of my jobs as a teen in my parents Silver Streak. Reminded of it, my sisters clammed up when complaining I didn't do the dishes any of three times daily. The clogs were sometimes of female utensils, shall we say. Five people using a trailer for weeks can create a build up. And nothing like a 100F Texas summer day to fix it.




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I pushed it down in there with a stick. Keeping an eye on it the rest of the week to see if we can avoid this particular problem again. Passing along fill it up with water to the wifey and self.
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One thing not mentioned but must be remembered-- DO NOT flush Kleenex as it doesn't disintegrate like TP does and will cause a nasty build-up or blockage. Only use RV approved TP, white, not colored or a pattern as the inks can keep the paper from dissolving properly. My toilet wasn't working properly so I removed it, and took it apart. My neighbors said that when I clean a toilet, I really clean the toilet. ( I replaced the gaskets while it was apart)
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