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Old 12-31-2014, 12:04 PM   #29
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Foiled your description of ''The Captains Log'' and my imagination was graphic enough. BoldAventure the culprit may be in your avatar. As a handy man I've removed a few toilets with toys blocking the passage. Little ones think a toilet is a trash can. Maybe a good flashlight and a looksy will find the problem. Proceed with caution and empty stomach.
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Old 12-31-2014, 02:55 PM   #30
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This is the best, cleanest photo I could get. You can see here, mine is not a straight pipe. Maybe not a total funnel.

It looks like it might be a 4inch to 3inch or something similar, like this:



The pink arrows are pointed to walls which are angled, and you can see the hole that goes straight down into the black tank. This is what gets 'backed up' sometimes in the past. And pushing it thru, it falls down into the black tank.

The blue circle is the hole straight into the black tank.
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Old 12-31-2014, 03:00 PM   #31
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BTW, I have the flush valve on the exterior that allows you to attach a hose and flush out the black tank. I do that usually before we leave a site.
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Old 12-31-2014, 03:19 PM   #32
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Have you considered "Geo Cashing"? I hear that is popular.

What is it with women and toilet "tissue". I do not care if the tissue can be digested by microbes or not.



You can tell how many females live in one house on Septic by the amount of toilet paper... I know, my neighbor wanted me to help him check his Septic to see if he needed to have it pumped. It could have been a new Hawaiian Island in progress from my opinion.

I know it might seem barbaric but by being selective what goes down the hatch will prevent your having to fish around to find what is clogging up the works. It could be a lost monkey that escaped from the Zoo... or just too much waste paper being tossed that could be delivered to a trash bin at your next gasoline stop. It is sterile and no threat to the environment.



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Old 12-31-2014, 03:19 PM   #33
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Hmmm. That is not what we have on our unit (2014 Eddie Bauer.) Our opening is the same size at the bottom of the bowl and the top of the tank (looks to be about the same size as your larger opening.) I see now why you described yours as a funnel. This appears to be a reducing connection needed because the size of the opening at the bottom of your toilet does not match the size of the tank opening. I wonder if your toilet is original or if a previous owner may have changed it out causing the need for the reducer?

I'm not familiar with your particular set up to be able to state whether it is typical for units of your model year (2007, I believe?) Perhaps someone with a similar aged AS can opine on this? In any event, I would increase the use of water when using the toilet for solids.

You might also check with an AS dealer near your location to see if this is typical or if a different connection to the black tank can be substituted. Or perhaps a new toilet with an opening that matches the one on the tank is possible? Keep asking questions until you get this resolved. The problem you have been having is not typical and certainly not acceptable.

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Old 12-31-2014, 06:20 PM   #34
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I rebuilt my Ceramic Sealand 910. It didn't have any cone design at the base. Did someone re-set yours using a household wax ring?? Some of those wax rings have a conical plastic insert restrictor to control the ooze of the wax when bolted down. They're a fraction of the cost of the correct gasket, or it could have been unwittingly installed..



Honoring and contributing to the degradation of this thread to toilet humor; The no-joke solution...
WARNING anatomical and medical vocabulary follows...


In the exponential technological advancement of our recent century, the million year tradition of defecating in the woods with a broad-leafed bush at hand, is lost to the most advanced anal hygiene system on our planet,


the Japanese Paperless Toilet.


Unfamiliar to the Americas, every household, hotel, and public restroom that I visited in Japan, has one. Not a child's toy, this genitalia and anus cleansing miracle machine, soon to be further featured with explosive methane level detection alarm, and >60db auto-muffling (joking aside, they honestly do offer a babbling waterfall sound chip with Hi-Fi speaker in the upper-end models), has no sphincter sensor (possibly in development), so you do have to manually press the appropriate button when you're ready engage this hands free paperless wonder.


Pressing onward, the temperature controlled, soothing powerwash cycle has adjustable wavering jets, mmmmmmm... Then, next keystroke, the gentle warm air blow dry, ahhhhhhh... You're sparkling clean with no need for the beloved standby, 120 grit Scott's..... Of course the roll's always there if you feel the need for back-up or power outage. Some models, the seat senses your proximity, opens and warms itself for your arrival, or you can set to pre-heat for times of frequent urgency. When you've finished your business, step away, the lid silently soft closes.



Both comical and scary, the high-end models (there are countless price and feature levels) option a remote control. When I first learned this, I imagined sitting on the can hollering “where's the remote” but it turns out that the remote is intended to be a near hand wall mount. Expect availability of a phone app any day...


This may all seem silly to some, but I've experienced the pleasure, and after a few sittings on my entry level model (TOTO SW502), and familiarizing myself with the side-console keyboard, the paperless Japanese toilet is the way to go!


Today, TOTO & Panasonic are primary rivals, but Sir-Lord-Duke Dyson could certainly become the leader, as a Vac/HOT/Airblade-tech-combotoilet wouldn't be a stretch from his current offerings. Dyson already has highly developed tech in vac, heat, and dry, just needs a warm water squirter and it's a pants-down win for him. So fitting to this Englishman's Fame, considering our modern toilet's origin with Sir John Harington and Thomas Crapper. Can't wait to see his Televised infomercial explaining the engineering superiority of the most advanced “Dyson II Evacuator”.
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My unit had the floor redone, and it looks like the put the laminate under the toilet rather than cut around it, so it's very possible something got changed.
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Old 12-31-2014, 08:46 PM   #36
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Have you considered "Geo Cashing"? I hear that is popular.

What is it with women and toilet "tissue". I do not care if the tissue can be digested by microbes or not.

We are on Septic and a well. We are too far from a City, Town and just far enough from neighbors. The wife keeps a trash "receptacle" for sorting what goes down the drain and what is best for the trash haulers on Thursdays.

You can tell how many females live in one house on Septic by the amount of toilet paper... I know, my neighbor wanted me to help him check his Septic to see if he needed to have it pumped. It could have been a new Hawaiian Island in progress from my opinion.

I know it might seem barbaric but by being selective what goes down the hatch will prevent your having to fish around to find what is clogging up the works. It could be a lost monkey that escaped from the Zoo... or just too much waste paper being tossed that could be delivered to a trash bin at your next gasoline stop. It is sterile and no threat to the environment.

Good luck. You could win this argument... but most likely the wife's expression will be all the answer you are going to require. You know... "are you nuts?"
I may be a female but have to clean up over flows when tank gets too full. I have a vested interest on dumping black tank once a day. I keep a female products out of black tank. I use a ziplock bag to stash trash in a trash can under sink; out of sight and out of black tank. For hearty over achievers they get to go to RV public restroom for daily deposits.
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Wow, I have second guessed my decision to install a residential style toilet in our A/S,,,, but after reading this thread I am comfortable with my decision...


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As I said before, it looks like the use if a rinse hose that some AS have as standard would rinse the tp down with little use of water. I'm not talking about the outside tank flusher wear a hose us attached, I'm talking about the hose next to the toilet itself. Maybe someone else can explain it better. Jim
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My unit had the floor redone, and it looks like the put the laminate under the toilet rather than cut around it, so it's very possible something got changed.
I would take your Airstream to a trusted dealer or better yet, the factory in Jackson Center to see if something can be done. It may involve getting a new "modern" toilet and updating the connection to the black tank. In any event, what you are going through is not normal and you should not expect to use the "stick method" on a permanent basis. If you are especially handy yourself, you might trying doing this on your own, but without some good knowledge of "how it ought to be" I'd be wary of tackling this myself.

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6 to 8 in. below the valve is the bottom of the tank. What side of the trailer is the toilet on, curb or street? If curb that is a common problem in all trailer made with the toilet on the curb side of the trailer. The water out runs the solids and leaves thing behind. No pun intended.
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6 to 8 in. below the valve is the bottom of the tank. What side of the trailer is the toilet on, curb or street? If curb that is a common problem in all trailer made with the toilet on the curb side of the trailer. The water out runs the solids and leaves thing behind. No pun intended.
Mine curb side. I spent some time flushing out my tank this morning. Filling up, dumping, filling up, dumping.

I have a serious worry now after shinny my flash light in there.

Is it possible that there is a straight pipe inside the base of the toilet that connects to the black tank, and that this was 'left out' by who-ever reinstalled my toilet. Looking in there, I thought, what if this is actually the inside of the base of the toilet! Dear God, I hope not.

We're redoing the floors, so I'm going to pull up the toilet anyhow. Ewwww...

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Is it possible that there is a straight pipe inside the base of the toilet that connects to the black tank, and that this was 'left out' by who-ever reinstalled my toilet. Looking in there, I thought, what if this is actually the inside of the base of the toilet! Dear God, I hope not.
I doubt that your toilet is not connected to your black tank. If that was the case then the toilet effluent would end up in your belly pan every time you flushed and you would have one helluva mess. More than likely you have a non-standard connection between the toilet and black tank and that is proving to be problematic.
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