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Old 07-30-2013, 08:38 AM   #15
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It's hard to break that habit. After 17 years of owning an SOB with the rear most pull handle being the black water, and now 12 years owning 2 Airstreams with the reverse, I still have to be careful to pull the correct handle. Thank goodness mine are labeled because I know that in some moment in one of my brain clouds I'd pull the wrong one. Not the biggest issue in the world when you are hooked up to a drain, but could be mighty embarrassing if I was sitting in the drive at home doing my grey water drain when I winterize or when I dewinterize.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:47 PM   #16
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Glad things seem to be working for you now. I wanted to let you know about this stuff I've used. It is called ByoGon. It is some sort of accelerant for the bacteria to consume the solids. The owner of the local SOB RV place claims that they use it with great results when the tank is completely plugged with solids. Dump six oz down the toilet, fill the black tank completely full and let it do its thing for two-three weeks. I recently treated my half full black tank this way and when I dumped the tank, the only thing that came out was clear water with a slight green hue. I was amazed. I hope you get it all cleaned out.

Thanks! I have the tank filled with RidX now, I will keep this in mind if it doesn't come out clean at the end of September when I drain it.

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Old 09-24-2013, 10:42 AM   #17
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Well, this last weekend was the test of the TSP and RidX. Everything came right out of the tank when I drained it once we got to the campground. I was happy at that, the inside of the tank looked clean also.

Yesterday when we were getting ready to leave I ended up spending 1 1/2 hours getting the tank to drain. I open the black water valve and nothing comes out. I ended up filling the tank with water over and over and opening the valve again, each time more solids came out (fun).

I think now that I have some sort of leak in the valve and or the tank. A slow leak but enough that the fluids leak out and leave a pile of solids.

So now I think I need to investigate the valve and or the tank. Does anyone have any tips on gaining access to one or both of these?

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Old 09-24-2013, 11:33 AM   #18
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It could be something simple....

Did you get the pencil and eyeglasses out? Could there be a clump of TP that is preventing you from closing the valve all of the way. I would fill the holding tanks with water, then monitor the drain. BUT the seals on those valve could be coated with gunk , or could have been worn out, dried out, or been ruined by the PO if they used Liquid Plumber or some other product Sorry, just trying to think of everything..
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Old 09-24-2013, 11:46 AM   #19
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Respectfully Alden...you are not Mandolindave

If it was me, I would know exactly what the problem was. It would be my eldest daughter, who for some reason is constantly dropping her cell phone in the toilet. Really....not all that funny. OK it's a little funny.
BUT since it is not me....it could be that the PO dropped a big wad of hundred dollar bills down the toilet.

Sorry, thought you might need some comic relief.
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Old 05-12-2014, 10:21 AM   #20
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All Fixed!

Well it took a while before I got serious about tackling this. Last weekend I lifted the side of the trailer and gained access to the black water plumbing. I can't remember if I mentioned it but it looked like it had been worked on before so it was easy to get to. I had to drill out about 10 rivets and remove a dozen screws.

Once I had access I could see that it had a leak from the side of the valve. Once the valve was removed I could see that the valve would not shut all the way.

Attached are a couple of graphic photos (sorry can't be helped when working on this stuff). You can see the valve and the blown gasket causing the issues. I fixed this by getting a rebuild kit for the valve from ODRVM. A little careful work putting it back together and the last major repair on the trailer is complete!





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Old 05-12-2014, 12:06 PM   #21
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I was told by an old timer to prime both tanks by putting an enzyme (Thetford eco-smart) plus 5 gallons of water in both the black and gray water tanks. The water helps keep the gaskets pliable on the tank side of the valves. He suggested draining both tanks before a trip and refilling with five gallons of water plus the enzyme stuff so the black tank had fluids for the solids to land in and the gray tank has slosh water with enzymes as well.

Re-prime both tanks after each dumping activity (of the tanks).
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I just repaired the same bad seal this weekend. But the white plastic piece that slides into the tank, was also cracked and came apart in my hands, the new replacements are ABS and shouldn't fail. Not a fun job, as I had to cut open the pan to gain access. Where did you order your replacement seals from? Getting hard to find Thetford parts.

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I have a 1974 argosy and was just curious to know how to get the grey water valve unstuck so I can drain the tank.
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Where did you order your replacement seals from? Getting hard to find Thetford parts.
OutDoors RV Mart in NC had them.

The slide on mine was fine but the channel it runs in had some petrified poop in it because the PO lived in the trailer in Florida for quite a few years. Once I took it apart and scrubbed the channel then everything worked as it should.

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Old 05-13-2014, 09:39 PM   #25
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Mitch.
Is there any movement in the handle?
I have a '74 Argosy as well. The valve on the grey water tank was stuck.
I tapped on it lightly (and I mean lightly) to see if it would move. It moved in slightly. I pulled it back out and repeated tapping on it. With each cycle the handle would move a little farther. Eventually I was able to move it the entire length of operation. It has worked ever since.
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