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Old 12-14-2012, 07:25 PM   #1
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Installing black & grey water tanks

Our 1967 Safari is currently gutted with the subfloor intact. We want to install a new black water tank and a grey water tank. ( old black water tank is in the back).

Mark has drawn up his general plan. Please let us know what you think of it or if we should change anything. Thank you so much!!
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Old 12-14-2012, 07:46 PM   #2
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Where is the plan located at?
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Old 12-14-2012, 08:17 PM   #3
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I see no need for that third gate valve just before the final exit.

Your proposed setup is just like the factory setup on our '83 Excella. That has one valve at the exit of each tank. Only using two valves.
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Old 12-15-2012, 08:44 PM   #4
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You have to click on the attached files. I don't know how to attach the pictures any other way. If there is a better way please let me know! Thanks Denise
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:01 PM   #5
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You would have to create them as .jpg or one of the other more common image files. pdf files always result in a link here.

In the first pdf, you reduce the 3" to 2" coming out of the grey tank. Why is this?

I agree, unless you are going to get fancy shifting fluid from grey to black, I don't see why you need the third (last) WV.
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Old 12-15-2012, 09:04 PM   #6
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Will the new tanks be enclosed within the galvanized box?

I added new tanks on my 67, (2) 6 gallon tanks that drain from the bottom.
I had a new tank box made, the old one rusted away over the years.

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Old 12-15-2012, 10:23 PM   #7
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If you use the 2" pipe between the 3" pipes, there will always be some waste trapped in the 3" portion of the gray water pipe. I would use a 3"x3"x3" combination tee coming out of the black tank (or a 3x3x3 sanitary tee if it's a tight space) and eliminate that section of 2" pipe.
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Old 12-15-2012, 10:54 PM   #8
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Hello to all. Thanks for responding. The 3" to 2" is to fit a bend collector slip hub from tweetys. I didn't find a 3" piece. The last w.v. is for back washing the black tank with grey water after the black tank has been dumped. It's not my idea, but is sound or overkill ? Is the 2" clean-out at the other end overkill ? I will be making sheet metal pans with foam board insulation. Angle iron and supports where needed. I've never restored anything of this magnitude, and want to do it right. Seeing and reading about what others have done gives me encouragement. Can I ask a few ?'s Thanks in advance. Do Valterra w.s. work horizontally ? Thetford ? Cable operated any good ? Dump bathroom sink into black tank ? Place one piece of flooring, like marmoleum, (as close to one piece as possible) under everything, tub,water heater, kitchen cabinet, or put in flooring after most things have been installed ? That's just some of the questions that have been banging around in my head. Thanks again, Mark
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Old 12-15-2012, 11:08 PM   #9
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Hello again. To A W Warn and all, I'm just getting up to speed on this poop tank project and they make more w.v. adapters than I've found so far, so I'll look again, because it would be nicer to have it be 3"s all the way. I've been over thinking this stuff and my head hurts. Is this normal. Must get rest now.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:34 AM   #10
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I was moving full steam ahead on a similar plan with my 68 Safari Twin, then as I was removing the duct work for the furnace, I had a moment of doubt.

If I install a grey water tank frame to frame near the axle, how does the heat get back to the bathroom?

Does anyone have a workaround, if I still want heat in the bathroom?
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I've seem photos of the heater duct running on top of the floor through a closet. So my guess would be that it was ran either under and through the beds all the way down on top of the floor, or ran underneath and then up through the floor and along the top of the floor. If you live in a really cold place, you might want to think about how to keep the tanks warm. My ambassador came with a duct that heated the black tank.
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...The last w.v. is for back washing the black tank with grey water after the black tank has been dumped. It's not my idea, but is sound or overkill ? Is the 2" clean-out at the other end overkill ?
The third valve is an excellent idea...I have installed a back flush gate valve on the '78 and use it at each dump to rock the gray water in order to better fllush the black tank....

The 2" valve should be replaced with a 1/2" or 3/4" valve for power washouts - better still to include an interior pipe with jet nozzels on this valve to reallly give the black tank a proper cleaning.

Good luck on your project - please share the time and costs ofyour undertaking so others can better estimate the labor and monies involved in similar undertakings.
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