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Old 12-01-2013, 07:49 PM   #1
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I broke my dangly bits. Replace discharge pipes and valves?

Pulling out of the driveway (long story), I crushed the grey water pipe and snapped the mount for the discharge connection. The black water pipe remained intact, thankfully. I roped it in place for the trip to the farm.

I hate the way those pipes stick out down there, ready to be crushed/frozen. I'm thinking of cutting the pipes close to the tanks and mounting valves there. Then I'll connect the discharge hose to each valve individually. It'll be more work to dump but will eliminate all that stuff hanging under the frame. (I don't expect to use dump stations often. I can dump at the farm.)

Is there anything I'm missing here? This seems like a major change. If it's such a good idea, I expect others would have already done it but I haven't found any mention of such a modification.

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Old 12-01-2013, 09:30 PM   #2
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Most folks use the grey water to flush the hose after the black water is dumped, therefore a common manifold is an advantage.

I agree with you that this piping hangs down low. Unfortunately that is a negative you inherit with a low center of gravity (low slung) trailer.

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Old 12-01-2013, 09:41 PM   #3
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The "low pipes" generally do not have water or other stuff to freeze in them unless dumping.

The single connection is ideal for sanitary reasons. Repair if possible is my thought.

As stated above, flush the black then rinse with gray. IMHO, You really will regret not being able to do a "single" hookup for this "duty".

BTW, I had to build "ramps" to transition the "dip" in my driveway for entry/exit. I built from 2x4s and Glued together and used all-thread to clamp. They transition 8 feet and are over a foot wide, they hold up the 34' Excella just fine.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:20 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by kylerlaird View Post
Is there anything I'm missing here? This seems like a major change. If it's such a good idea, I expect others would have already done it but I haven't found any mention of such a modification.
Just my 2¢ worth…

The main thing you might be missing is ergonomics. If you cut off the manifold— what's left of it— and install individual valves at the cut ends, how easy will it be to reach them? Will you have to crawl underneath to hook up the slinky? Will you have to crawl underneath to open and close the new valves?

It may be possible to cobble together a removable manifold. Two elbows, a T, all with bayonet fittings for quick assembly, possibly some short sections of rigid plastic pipe to connect them all together depending on how far apart the black and gray tanks are, a 5-gallon bucket with lid to carry the parts in when the manifold is disassembled (and to facilitate washing the parts, fill the bucket with soapy water, let the trip do the agitstion). It would take some extra work when setting up or breaking camp, but it solves both problems.
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Old 12-02-2013, 05:59 AM   #5
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If I recall correctly the BH plumbing and valves SEEMED lower and easily smashed. I would think twice about individual outlets. There will be a time you'll need to dump and you wont feel like laying in the mud.
Dumping is nasty enough as it is.... don't make it any worse by adding any more steps or parts to the process.
These parts are cheap to replace. Do it right but tuck it up higher.

Best luck and know we have all ripped off something at some point!
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:55 AM   #6
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It be done or it cannot it be done, that is the question. Open up the belly tank and take a look before you decide which way to go. I sometime think that the trailer manufactures do what's easier for them to install verse what is best for the end user.

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