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05-10-2003, 05:47 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
madison
, Wisconsin
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grey water valve repair
hello gang,
just spent a pleasant saturday afternoon fixing my grey water leak.
i was able to repair it with parts found locally. $16.38 total.
first thing i did was get some room to work.
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05-10-2003, 05:49 PM
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#2
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
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, Wisconsin
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tin snips
then i cut a hole and found the problem.
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05-10-2003, 05:50 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
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went on a parts run...
and got this:
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05-10-2003, 05:53 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
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, Wisconsin
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the culprit
here is the remainder if the flange broke off in the tank.
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05-10-2003, 05:55 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
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so i made a new one
with a flange and a section of pipe...
it is sealed into the tank with our friend vulkem.
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05-10-2003, 05:58 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
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then installed it
the hose clamp (heavy duty aircraft type) squeezes the connection tight.
note the vulkem oozing out.
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05-10-2003, 06:02 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
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then i closed up the hole
with some more goo and pop rivets.
after filling the tank and checking for leaks, there were none!
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05-10-2003, 06:05 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Are you saying there is no other easy way to reach that valve without cutting a hole?
1992 and a leak?? you are starting to scare us.
Mike just mentioned that it's a good thing your trailer is not one of those I have heard called "vintage" , they would throw you out of the forum for doing a repair that looks so efficient and practical
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05-10-2003, 06:06 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
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ducks wtf?
really wasn't that bad of a project, about 3 hours including the parts run.
while i was under the trailer i kept hearing quacking...i thought i was going nuts!
after i crawled out from the trailer the last time i noticed these two less than ten feet away!
john
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05-10-2003, 06:09 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
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by the book!
Quote:
Originally posted by femuse
Are you saying there is no other easy way to reach that valve without cutting a hole?
1992 and a leak?? you are starting to scare us.
Mike just mentioned that it's a good thing your trailer is not one of those I have heard called "vintage" , they would throw you out of the forum for doing a repair that looks so efficient and practical
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femuses,
just followed the instructions in my manual.
it sez: "don't skimp on the size of hole you cut, bigger is better!"
john
miller time!!
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05-10-2003, 06:16 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Nice looking job.
You are lucky to have an acurate manual, ours is pretty much useless.
How much do you think that Airstream would charge for it ? [no need to answer]
I'm not sure how good are those ducks under the trailer. Eating bugs? At least our rabbits are trying to remove some of the grass that keeps on growing there.
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05-10-2003, 06:23 PM
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Retired Moderator
1992 29' Excella
madison
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ducks
my golden retrievers found those ducks to be quite a lot of fun!
at least they are good for something, the ducks that is.
woof woof quack quack woof woof!
john
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05-11-2003, 08:20 AM
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Aluminut
2004 25' Safari
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"woof woof quack quack woof woof!"
You crack me up.
On a side note, where did you get that manual? Mine is pretty shoddy too. I have the schematics, but no really step by step like my car shop books.
My valve is on the outside, so I'm not too worried about having to dig in, but it would be nice to have the Airstream "shop" books.
Eric
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05-11-2003, 08:45 AM
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1992 29' Excella
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just the regular book
that came with my trailer. is all i have.
perhaps '92 was a rewrite year for the manual.
there are still images from the early 70's, judging by the types of cars pictured.
but the referances to the plumbing and electrics have been accurate.
i don't know if "shop manuals" are available for later model trailer.
my buddy got a set from helen davis for his '74 excella. it goes into great detail. more than the "regular manual".
john
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05-11-2003, 10:10 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Quote:
but the referances to the plumbing and electrics have been accurate.
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Some people have all the luck!!! We do have a manual.
A few things are located where the book says they are: like the door, the sink, the fridge. Just don't try to get into fine details.
We are worried about our own valve leaking one day soon. I suppose this was caused by a bad balancing of the wheels, the tires,..etc...., the whole assembly, or something like that.
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05-11-2003, 12:23 PM
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1992 29' Excella
madison
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femuse
the curb in front of my house most likely caused this.
darned shortcut!
all i said at the time was doh!
didn't find the problem until i put water to the trailer this spring.
john
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05-11-2003, 01:23 PM
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Vulkem
Hey John, did you find the Vulkem locally? The company that makes the stuff is about 20 minutes from me, yet I cannot find it anywhere around here.
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05-11-2003, 01:30 PM
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1992 29' Excella
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i'll check
my buddy ordered a case when he got his trailer in march.
i got a couple from him, i'll ask.
john
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05-12-2003, 07:49 PM
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1992 29' Excella
madison
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pick
the vulkem came from airstream dreams
http://www.airstreamdreams.com/
john
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01-18-2009, 10:29 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 31' Classic
Golden Valley
, Arizona
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 569
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John,
Well it has happened to me now. My gray valve between the valve and the tank is leaking. I hope you can remember some of what went on as I have a few questions on this thread.
In post #2, it shows the location of the leak. Exactly where mine is.
Post #3: The replacement flange you have appears different than the one that I used in my black valve repair, post #17. Mine protruded on the side opposite the valve, it appears yours did not?
Post #4: Did the tank part break so it was flush with the tank or was there always something sticking out? Also did the old part (from the valve) go inside the tank or outside this extended piece. I guess inside because that is how you fixed it and due to the hose clamp.
Post #5: The left side of this goes to the valve and the right side inside the tank?
Post #6: This shows the black stub you created inside the tank and clamped?
How did you get the old white piece off of the tank? Is there any type of adhesive or is it just the hose clamp keeing it on?
I may have a few more questions here in the future.
Thanks!
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