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Old 09-09-2008, 10:44 PM   #15
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Great info in this thread (as usual).

Just a side question: when did grey tanks become standard issue on all AS models?
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Old 09-09-2008, 11:01 PM   #16
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Old 09-10-2008, 10:02 AM   #17
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Thanks, AZ. Not sure that I'd want one without a grey tank, so this is good to know.
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Old 09-10-2008, 11:57 AM   #18
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Dumping grey water on the ground is generally frowned upon, especially in the National Forests. I have heard some states still allow it, in some circumstances.
Arizona allows dumping gray water when boondocking. Most newer rural residences such as ours also route gray water to outlets outside. Campgrounds are another story.
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Many people that don't know or understand and are turned off by the term Gray Water, they see it as a mix of black and white which we all know isn't true in our situation. The term Wash Water is much better understood and you may be allowed to dump Wash Water when you would be turned away from dumping Gray Water.
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You should be able to go on the National Forest websites and look under Gunnison National Forest for a campsite. Depending upon the weather, many of them may close on Oct. 1. There will probably not be any facilities available but some will have dump sites. Grey Water, Wash Water, whatever you want to call it is pretty much forbidden on National Forest land. We have camped at Devils Canyon near Monticello, Ut. and it is a National Forest facility. A nice site but they patrol the area to make sure peope are not letting grey water out.
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I have never been to a federal or state campground where the dumping of washwater on the ground was allowed.
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I have never been to a federal or state campground where the dumping of washwater on the ground was allowed.
I'm guessing that a lot of the campers are there in tents, as well as trailers?

So, what do folks do about the grey wash water they create? Surreptitiously toss it behind a tree? Wait till nobody is looking and throw it on an empty site?

Hard to believe that they would truck it home for disposal...
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Some developmed campgrounds I've been in have specified places where one is supposed to dump one's wash water. I would think the idea is that after doing dishes or whatever, one is supposed to carry the dishpan over to these "'dump sites" and pour the gray water in. I personally have never seen ANYONE do this. Thus, I'd guess that tent campers either pour it on the ground, ... or maybe use it to make coffee?!! Or maybe they sneak over there long after dark to do their pouring?
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All of the camps we visit are VERY strict about anything that comes out of a dump hose...but it's ok to wash dishes by the faucet and let the soap soak into the ground
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Picture one is of the dump tank - there are a bunch of models in various colors - hooked up with the Black tank line.

Picture two is the cap you can use to hook up the grey tank to the same dump tank and only drain off the grey "liquids".
So, I bought what *appeared* to be the same thing but, as Lunatic illuded, it did not fit. It is too small. I did some googling to see what the OD is of a Thetford fitting and the OD of a Valtera but couldn't find any dimensions???? It does look like the Valtera is entirely different though. So, anyone know the OD of the Thetford? Thanks for your help with this matter!
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Thinking more about this, seems that I could use two items to simplify my dumping needs:
(1) Universal valve adapter (converting my Thetford to use with Valterra)
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(2) Valterra end cap with a place to connect a standard hose
Termination Cap with Hose Connector - Item - Camping World

Course, the rest of the sewer stuff I received with my A/S probably won't work without me taking these 2 parts off though ... right?
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Well you have to change one or the other.... The fitting on the hose is easier than revamping the trailer.... If the adapter works go with that. the two systems are really different and don't come close to working together.....
Don't waste the time... I already did that for everyone.... Even tried cutting bits off the Valtera fitting to try and get it to fit on my Thetford.. no luck...
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We have camped several times at FDR State Park in Pine Mountain, GA and they have gray water dump stations every third camp site or so. This consist of a hole filled with gravel with a wire mesh over it. Each time I dumped the 25 gallon tank, the hole filled and the water puddled in a large puddle around the hole. We always tried to get the same pull through site where the trailer is parallel to the road with the back to the road for privacy, so I'd feel kind of funny dumping the gray water right next to the road.

Last week we stayed at a Georgia Power camp ground for a rally and one of the co-ralliers told us we could dump gray water on the ground, so I did. Of course gray water that has been sitting in the tank in 90 degree weather all day doesn't smell so good first thing the nest morning. But I got to thinking, what is the difference between dumping the gray water on the ground at the camp site at FDR and hauling it over to the gray water dump site and dumping it there?

Now I'm thinking we might get a non-pull through next time at FDR and dump the gray water on the ground at the back of the site instead of messing with the blue boy so much...some days I have to dump the gray tank twice depending on how often we wash dishes (it holds 38 gallons and the blue tank only holds 25).

Of course this leads to the question, is it poor manners to dump gray water on the ground behind your trailer and in front of your neighbors camp site?
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