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Old 05-07-2009, 10:00 AM   #29
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This is all great info. I'm going to call the city and get them out here. Maybe I don't want to mention that I want to occasionally dump my trailer's tanks. Might not be legal, really?

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I wouldn't ask; you might open a bucket of worms.

I never asked anyone. If there is some rule against it, it's a stupid one as all you are putting in the sewer is the same stuff that comes from your house.

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Old 05-07-2009, 10:31 AM   #30
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Exactly what I'm talking about, thanks! Are those pipe wrenches available at box stores, or will I need to hit a plumbing specialty store? And good idea on the finger-tight and/or light grease to make it easier to use.
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I believe I remember seeing wrenches for these plugs at the big box stores. A simple solution would be to make a home made one out of a scrap piece of ply wood.

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Old 05-07-2009, 10:37 AM   #31
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I have a septic system at my house, small amounts of the formaldehyde shouldn't cause any problems if you have normal volume of house waste going through it. But we don't use the formaldehyde based stuff for other reasons. Other than that there is no reason not to dump holding tanks into septic systems, or sewers.

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Old 05-07-2009, 10:39 AM   #32
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Just becasue I know it's not legal to connect an RV dump hookup to the sewer line in my city, you may want to check your local laws before doing so.

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No difference between a clean out and an RV dump Typical RV dumps are built on a pad to contain spills, and quite often have a flip cap. If you are using a clean out and put the cap back on when you are done, no one should be any the wiser.

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Old 05-07-2009, 11:54 AM   #33
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Marcus,
I believe I remember seeing wrenches for these plugs at the big box stores. A simple solution would be to make a home made one out of a scrap piece of ply wood.

Here's one from Camping world

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No need to buy a specialty wrench, just use a channel lock pliers or a monkey wrench, or anything that will fit around the square peg. I keep channel locks in my Airstream tool box and have used them at campgrounds where the previous site occupant got a little carried away when replacing the screw-in type plug. I also have used the pliers for other purposes that the special clean-out wrench couldn't be used for...multi-taskers make better use of storage space.
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Old 05-07-2009, 12:10 PM   #34
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Hey - I didn't say the law made sense, nor did I say that I don't dump my tanks down the toilet. All I said it's not legal to tie into the sewer system here with an RV. I think it's really directed at how cold it gets up here in the tundra. They do not want any sewer connections between the house and the street. But then, my sewer line is well below 5 feet down in the cold, cold ground. Outside clean out? Not in Minnesota... If my little city has this type of local law, others probably do to. Just something to think about.
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Old 05-07-2009, 03:03 PM   #35
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my two cents

If you are using a maceater, you can simply run the hose to any toilet, as
toilets are self leveling. You might want an exhaust fan running.
If you are dumping in a ceptic tank, you could always use an enzyme based product that would actually be good for your ceptic system. Some people use Ridex in there RVs because it works great, is cheap , and it is green on the environment.
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We do an occasional holding tank dump into our sewer clean out (that we had installed when we had to make a repair to the main line). If you have the u-shaped type with 2 inlets...use the one closest to the house to dump, as that will direct the waste away from the house toward the sewer...if you use the one furthest from the house the wast will be directed back toward the house...not what you want to do. Works great...especially nice if you were unable to dump your tanks for whatever reason at the last camp ground...
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No need to buy a specialty wrench, just use a channel lock pliers or a monkey wrench, or anything that will fit around the square peg. I keep channel locks in my Airstream tool box and have used them at campgrounds where the previous site occupant got a little carried away when replacing the screw-in type plug. I also have used the pliers for other purposes that the special clean-out wrench couldn't be used for...multi-taskers make better use of storage space.
It's big, I don't have a set of channel locks or a monkey wrench that will fit around it. But the idea of making a square "wrench" out of plywood will work, I think that is what I will do.

Great thread folks, thanks for all of the input.

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Exactly what I'm talking about, thanks! Are those pipe wrenches available at box stores, or will I need to hit a plumbing specialty store? And good idea on the finger-tight and/or light grease to make it easier to use.

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Clean-Out Wrench - Item - Camping World


Edit: Well, I see I'm late to the park with this suggestion. I found mine cheaper at the box store. What's handy about this wrench is the leverage one can exert (the careful, very-careful-pressure kind) with a "cheater". Use some plumbers waterproof grease on fitting threads afterwards.

P.S. You'll never be sorry to have an aluminum pipe wrench of a medium size and a small size when you get around to buying some.
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This photo shows a cleanout addition.

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Hello all,
Let me add my two sheets in to he topic. For those who think dumping in the septic would oevr fill your system faster think of this. For a family of 4 who use the bathroom twice a day will have 8 flushes. that 1.6 to 3.0 gallons of water going into the septic. A seven day vaction would be 12.8 to 24 gallons you wont be using. Before you go on a vacation use rid-x in your system. Then when you come back your septic should be ready for your waste cleaning. I am on a septic and envy those with city sewer lines. But I dont envy the extra bill with the sewer line.
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Really, a typical septic tank has to deal with bathtubs full-o-stuff on a regular basis....
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Yeah, see up here, like Minno said, that won't fly. Water (and sanitary sewage) has to be four feet below grade, minimum, or the pipes will freeze as solid as a rock for certain sure.

Sewage cleanouts are all indoors here.

Somehow, I just can't see this whole idea. In my book, a transfer point for sewage needs to be able to sop up any mistakes, and I'm trying to imagine my driveway in that light, but it just doesn't fly for me, like I say.
But whatever floats your boat, I suppose.

By the way, it's definitely NOT something I would hide from anyone, much less the city. You don't want to get into their bad books through something like this, and being sneaky only compounds the issue if they happen to stumble across it. Those folks can make life miserable, if they think you are trying to pull something over on them.

Just my opinion, maybe things are different down where you all live...
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