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Old 01-12-2004, 01:13 PM   #1
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composting vs. incineration

I had my mind made up on purchasing a composting toilet then stumbled upon the incinolet, an electric incineration toilet using standard 120. Does anyone have any experience with either of these two systems, or any opinion as to which will be the easiest and most reliable.

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Old 01-12-2004, 01:43 PM   #2
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Odor Problem!

Years ago, I had continuing maintenance problems with an electric toilet. Odor was one of the huge problems, and element replacement was another.

I would wonder about the reservoir size. Too small a reservoir could limit your boondocking activities. In addition, the electric element might put your existing electrical service "over the top" as far as amperage requirements go.
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Old 01-12-2004, 01:51 PM   #3
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Airstream used to have a device that would spray the black tank stuff on to the car's muffler
Does anyone still have such a system?

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Old 01-12-2004, 02:49 PM   #4
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qqq,

funny you should bring that up, there was a detailed posting regarding the Thermassan unit you are describing just last week. I read about the unit in my manual too. Very interesting.


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Old 01-12-2004, 05:24 PM   #5
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Old 01-12-2004, 08:53 PM   #6
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The model I am looking at is an Incinolet. The manufacturer insures that there will be no odors, the contraption is vented. It is claimed to be able to handle 4 adults daily usage. I am thinking with only me and me mate, I could possibly use the toilet to incinerate most other garbage as well, and still not be pushing it to it's limits. I was worried about longevity, and element life. Whether it is expected to replace these parts regularly and what that would cost. The toilet itself is just over $1500.00 not a cheap toy, but worth every penny for a lifetime of trouble free, stink free service.

What are the drawbacks to a composting toilet. I just read in the news about problems at the Wright Brothers home where the composting toilets are real stinky, and don't seem to work right. I am less sure about the cleanliness of a composting process for human waste in a small trailer. Does anyone out there use either of these? Is either of these too much trouble(as compared to regular black water dumps,yuck!)?

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Old 01-12-2004, 10:25 PM   #7
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Incinerator toilet

These incinerator toilets use an awful lot of power, like 1500w for an hour each time you cycle it.
Forget solar panels, you will need a full size genset for one of these.
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Old 01-12-2004, 11:35 PM   #8
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I've read that the composting toilets are very sensitive to the 'feeding' process, and that if you don't keep them damp and warm and the right proportions of ingredients then the composting action won't happen correctly. Just like out in the garden compost pile.

Here's an interesting website:

Composting Toilets
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Old 01-31-2004, 01:24 PM   #9
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Question marine composting toilet

Has anyone tried a marine composting toilet, made for boats but can be used for rvs
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I would like to know if anyone has heard anything good or bad about the sun-mar composting toilet. It is the only one I have found that will fit without major modifications into my older AS. I am hurriedly in the market since the original avocado colored contraption refuses to make flush water on demand, but produces plenty of fluch water at all other times.

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Old 08-16-2004, 01:25 AM   #11
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The system I plan to institute in my Westcraft is as simple as a 20-gal. plastic bucket under a mahogany seat. Nearby will be a bucket of sawdust or shredded leaves with a ladle. If you use the bucket, you throw a ladle's worth of cover material into it. End of story. When the bucket is 3/4 full, you lift it out & empty it into the compost pile that feeds your flower borders. Any fuller & it gets unwieldy. Alternatively, cover it & it will fully compost within about 2 weeks.

This is courtesy of Anna Edey, the visionary & hardworking force behind the Solviva house, greenhouse & farm on Martha's Vineyard. It's explained fully in her book about the greenhouse, and you can find more information at www.solviva.com but believe me, you want to order the book. I'll ask her, though, whether it's all right to reprint a few paragraphs about the results of the extremely simple compost toilet, which she uses in her house. I've used it with gratifying results in the greenhouse, which serves as a pool pit stop in summer.

As I map out a year's travels with the Bambi that will focus on living lightly on the land--living in your body, rather than stuffing it with overdone food as if it were a sausage in the cosmic food chain, learning how to live off grid & do it beautifully, learning how to live outside the "numbers" (24/7, 40-hr workweek, 55-62-67) and learning how to put my hands to everything i could need in this life... Anna will be the first stop on the tour of minds & places that could help me accomplish those goals.
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Old 08-16-2004, 01:54 AM   #12
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Has anyone tried a marine composting toilet, made for boats but can be used for rvs
I think you're referring to a macerator pump. My Caravel has one which was installed by the PO.
It's a nice appliance for a boat but I'm not sure it's needed in a travel trailer.
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Old 12-16-2004, 08:59 AM   #13
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No ,the brand I am thinking of is a Sunmar rv /marine composting toilet that is made for harsh extremes like getting tossed about on a boat. It requires a small fan in the stack that draws the air out ( runs thru a charcoal filter) to keep composting oders out of the enclosed environment. It does have a small 15 watt heater coil than can be run on 110W or 12 volt (5 watt solar panel) to speed up the process, but isnt necessary. Well I ordered one 2 days ago, so I'll keep everyone posted. We'll try it first in a small room in the barn, which needed some "facilities", so it can out-gas i.e. get the "new product smell" out and see if it is tolerable for me in the trailer. Will let you know. Summerkid, keep us posted on your journeys. Martha's Vineyard sounds great! Let me know if there is a good rv spot. thanks, silver suz
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Old 12-16-2004, 09:14 AM   #14
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Martha's Vineyard sounds great! Let me know if there is a good rv spot.
There aren't any RV campgrounds or RV-friendly public lands on Martha's Vineyard. I believe they are discouraged on the ferry, too. There is literally no place for them on the island, except in someone's driveway. Knowing the Vineyard, I wouldn't be surprised to hear that they are prohibited even there...

If you want to see Martha's Vineyard, the best way is via bicycle. The island has many miles of cycling paths connecting the larger towns, which can then be explored on foot.
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