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Old 05-30-2005, 11:29 PM   #1
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Black water indicator gauge not working?

We just bought a 2004 25' Safari ss and the balck water gauge shows eather empty or full with out much in between.

When I empty it it shows empty and after a couple of flushs it shows it is full again.

How can I check it to see if the gauge is wrong or could my tank have a build up in it?

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Old 05-31-2005, 02:58 AM   #2
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You're not alone ... if that makes you feel any better.

Mine does the same thing ... sort of like an on/off switch ... indicates empty or full with no in between lights.

Airstream sent me a new calibrated Systems Monitor ... but it was the same. I also tried to recalibrate the Monitor ... no luck there either. Now I'm wondering if the sending unit is bad.

I'm sure others will chime in with their advice and experiences ... but I've given up.
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Old 05-31-2005, 06:58 AM   #3
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Had the same thing happen on our 2005 Bambi. We've not used it enough to know if it's a consistent problem, but so far it will register Full if there's only a couple gallons in the BW tank.
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:31 AM   #4
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Yep, have this problem with the older units too

And not just Airstreams. Family members with SOB white boxes complain of the same problem. We've had the sensors replaced and they worked great just once. I guess the sensors get "blinded" after just a flush or two. Our grey water sensor is also not dependable, we only really know when this tank is full when water stops draining from the shower pan.

And I'm with Porky Pig, I've gotten over my obsession with the gauges not working.
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Old 05-31-2005, 08:56 AM   #5
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From day 1

My black water indication was indicating full when I picked up the trailer and it has remained at full or near ull ever since. The gray water display is better, but not terribly reliable. The fresh water sensor seems to work fairly acceptably.

The propane sensors show red long, long before the tanks are empty, but with the auto switchover that's no problem. If I'm near a Flying-J where I can buy propane by the gallon, I go ahead and fill when it turns red. If I have to use a flat-rate propane outlet, I let the changeover occur before I fill the tank. With 30# tanks, I only fill two or or, at most, three times a year.

When you look at the tearing up of the trailer to get at the tank wiring, it is better to just accept that the sensors are wonky. With care, the two of us can spend close to a week without ever dumping. Plus, in my 25, I can see the black level through the toilet and that's the critical one.
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Old 05-31-2005, 09:01 AM   #6
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Once the sending units get coated with the contents of the holding tanks, they tend to work erratically. The only way to make them work again is to remove and clean them, and then they only work a couple of more times before acting goofy again. Our tank monitor consists of the old Mark 1 eyeball. It works well for us, but I don't think newer coach owners would be able to use this feature, as the tanks are not visible from inside.
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Old 05-31-2005, 09:26 AM   #7
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Good to know . . .

I'm new here, having purchased a '66 Safari late last fall. It is the first RV for me.

I am rebuilding my Gem and thought it would be nice to put gauges in both the fresh and black tanks (it doesn't have a grey tank, and have been told the frame isn't strong enough for one to be added).



After reading your comments, I'll just worry about the fresh water tank.

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Old 05-31-2005, 12:08 PM   #8
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I had similar issues and also recalibrated the unit. When I was in Jackson Center for some work, I added it to the list with little hope....we'll I was very happy to find that they got it to work just fine!

As of this moment, full is full and empty is empty nearly across the board. The only exception is that the fresh tank reads empty before it's actually empty...which to me is a small plus.

You can get some good reading on the subject here:

http://www.airforums.com/forum...ht=tank+sensor

Right now my server is off, so the downloads won't work, but if you PM me your email address, I'll send you the manual recalibration .PDFs
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Old 05-31-2005, 12:23 PM   #9
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A gray water tank "can" be added to your trailer, very safely.

The trick is proper design and installation.

Along with the proper design, the location is very important, so as to "not" appreciably disturb the tongue weight, from a full to an empty gray water tank.

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Please contact Rod at C & G trailer in Bellfower for advise theri phone numer is 562 634-6286 and ask for info more than willing to give info for FREE.
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Andy,

Cool. Can you give me more information on the "design and installation" part and also some information on tank size (as in gallons)? Is there a thread that addresses this?



I had planned earlier on installing an 8-12 gallon tank between the cross members of the frame just behind the axle section.



Any information or direction to another thread would be great.



Also, my Gem, as indicated earlier, doesnít have a tank reader on any tank. Iíve had problems ordering newer parts from Airstream, as they must have a serial number of a modern unit before doing business. This makes it difficult to order more modern parts from them for an older unit!

Does anyone have a 'part number' for the tank gauges?


For the rest of the readers - sorry to intrude and divert the thread.



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What would be the worst case scenario?

We have taken our '05 out on two short trips now, a 2 night stay and a 3 night stay. Our black water doesn't seem to be accurate either. A few flushes and it shows near full. My question is, where will the water go if you do to accidentally overfill it. Maybe I don't want to know the answer on that one!

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We have taken our '05 out on two short trips now, a 2 night stay and a 3 night stay. Our black water doesn't seem to be accurate either. A few flushes and it shows near full. My question is, where will the water go if you do to accidentally overfill it. Maybe I don't want to know the answer on that one!

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It will simply not flush down the toilet. You can see it getting full if you look in when you flush. You will see the tank level in the pipe before it backs up into the toilet.
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Whew....

that is somewhat of a relief. At least we will have a "visual" warning.

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