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Old 12-25-2005, 11:23 PM   #29
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Photo of the sheet metal surround for the grey that is being moved.

Note the 1" Styrofoam insulation around the edges and the vacuum formed plastic insert laying in the bottom. This is probably required to distribute the weight of water at 8/10 lbs per gallon.

We will copy this technique in building the second holding tank and the new black.

Photo 2 shows the tank outside the metal holding box.

The boxes are supported by angle pieces at the front and back and on both ends.
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Old 12-28-2005, 09:44 PM   #30
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macerator and holding tank sensors

1. Next, I would like to consider a macerator and holding tank sensors.

Does anyone have advice or opinions to offer?

2. How do we start a new thread? I canít seem to find out where we do that.

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Old 12-28-2005, 10:48 PM   #31
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2. How do we start a new thread? I can’t seem to find out where we do that.

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To start a new thread click on the forums tab and then find the area (sub forum) where you want to post. OPen that forum and then click on the "new thread" button. A new box will open and you can add your text. Be sure to pick a title that relfects the topic of the new thread. Hope this helps.
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Canoe Stream or anyone,

What was stated in post #3 about holding capacities, how about a 1977 28ft Argosy we are looking at. Are the holding cap. Grey tank 16 gallon, and Black tank 23 gallons the same as the 24 ft? This has they side bath.
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Does the 1977 28ft Argosy, with side bath, have a grey tank? If so, what is the capacity? Capacity of the black tank? Is it above or below floor?
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Old 05-13-2006, 11:26 AM   #34
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Does the 1977 28ft Argosy, with side bath, have a grey tank? If so, what is the capacity? Capacity of the black tank? Is it above or below floor?
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According to the 1977 Argosy owners' manual, the 28' rear bedroom/side bath coaches had the following holding tank capacities:
  • Potable Water -- 30 Gallons
  • Waste Water
    • 23 Gallons Blackwater
    • 16 Gallons Wash Water
  • Water Heater -- 6 Gallons
There is no mention of the Wash Water tank being other than standard in the specifications section; but in the waste plumbing section of the manual the following statement can be found: On models equipped with the auxiliary holding tank the waste water from the sink and bath lavatory drain into the tank.

I had thought that the Wash Water tank was standard starting in 1974 as it was with Airstream, but the manual doesn't clarify this point; and in fact, the section on waste water plumbing leaves the impression that the wash water tank may have been optional.

I am almost afraid to speculate, but from what is written in the manual, my suspicion is that the layout may be similar to my '78 Minuet -- both tanks may be mounted on top of the floor -- the omission of mention of the wash water collecting the bath/shower drain water makes me think that this may be a possibility. If this is the case, there is still the problem of dealing with the wash water drained from the bathroom's shower/tub.

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Kevin -- My '76 Argosy manual looks to be generic across the entire trailer line and includes data for each trailer length. My grey tank is below floor. SmokelessJoe also has dealt with a below floor grey tank (actually has repositioned his). My overall and perhaps imperfect impression is that fresh water tanks are above floor in Argosy trailers. Isn't the black almost universally above floor and under the toilet?

Yes, my manual seems to list the grey tank under "Optional Equipment and Variable Weights" -- along with other 'options' such as A/C, Auxiliary Main Step, B.A.L. Jacks, individual weight of 4 LP tank options (5-7-10 gal, steel vs aluminum), Fridge RM 77 or Fridge RM 100, Safety Group, Spare Tire, Spare Tire, TV Antenna, and Vista View windows (not available on under 26'). This was probably for purpose of fine tuning specific option weights on a given unit -- now and then you'll see an Argosy without A/C and a few with a spare tire.
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Old 05-13-2006, 09:02 PM   #36
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I realized reading todayís post that I hadnít kept the Forum advised of progress for some time.

For those interested, reading back into this thread - and monitoring a conversation with Chuck at:

http://www.airforums.com/forum...l-20759-2.html

- will trace our course from naivety and curiosity to a complete revamping of the undercarriage plumbing system.

We now have a new 14 gallon black - UNDER the floor - and a new 32.66 gallon grey, complete with No Fuss Flush, Micro Pulse sensors and the Sani Con Waste Management System.

Photos here show the compartment that was built for the Sani Con, inside and out, and shots of the new holding tanks.

There is also a shot of the now stripped out interior.

Iíve changed my mind and will now install a complete new interior, keeping only the original 1976 Argosy layout, which I like.

There is still a lot to do.

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missing shot of the macerator compartment, inside....
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will it go now?
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HI Sergei,,, quite impressive,,,, bet it functions quite well,,,, come out to the wilds of Montana and test it out,,,, dieterdog
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Donna:

Montana is not a good place for testing. The Grey Water Fairy lives out there, remember?

I will travel there - and in Saskatchewan - anyway, once I get this thing done.

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10 Gal Black Tank

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Sergei, you can move the grey water tank to between the axles, and have more grey water capacity. The '70's Argosies had a 7-10 gallon grey water capacity, so anything more you can put in would be good.
The black tank, however, usually rests on the floor in the bathroom, under the toilet. You really can't do much moving around there without major surgery. Black tank capacity uis about 10 gallons.
Now if you think about it 10 gal. is a lotta poop ! Newer RV toilets probably only have a cup of water in the bowl, and unless you just need to go crazy with the sprayer, you don't use much more when flushing.

If you've got 5 or 6 people in your Argosy, then 10 gallons will fill up fast, but with one or two, you won't fill that tank for two weeks or more. I agree with the experienced rebuilders, moving the black tank... simply not worth the effort.

Keep your current black tank, and find somewhere else to spend the money!

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people do things for different reasons....

I agree. 10 gallons of black is generally enough, even if some new Airstreams come with 35 gallons.

We rebuilt the whole system because we wanted the black tank UNDER the floor, with a new ceramic toilet on a FLAT floor.

It was a design consideration.

12 gallons of grey was unacceptable. We now have 36 plus gallons there.

The money has been spent, happily.
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