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Old 08-03-2016, 03:47 AM   #15
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The toilet is still sitting on the tank. I believe its the water that is not connected. I will find out more when I pick it up Friday from the RV service place I brought it too. I will take some photos. I cant remember if the tank it above or below. I want to say above but I'm not really sure. My guy said it looks like the whole thing has been re-plumbed, so I don't know what they may have done. He doesn't have a lot of experience with AS so I hope maybe he is just missing something. He also said it looks like a lot of the plumbing has been done with copper instead of pex and a little over done for an RV, not sure what to think about that!
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Old 08-03-2016, 05:39 AM   #16
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If your rv guy doesn't know old AS then he may not know how the plumbing was originally. AS can be different than sobs.
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Old 08-03-2016, 06:20 AM   #17
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I have a 72 Overlander and unless some PO made a terrible mistake and connected the grey to the black tank - it was not that way originally - Overlander 63 was more succinct but exactly correct.


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Old 08-03-2016, 06:21 AM   #18
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Your 71 should have the tank below the floor.


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Old 08-03-2016, 06:38 AM   #19
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I also have a 71 Globetrotter. The black tank sets above the floor with the dump valve attached to the bottom of the tank. The grey water lines were plumbed into the discharge pipe below the black tank valve and then exited the shell. There was no grey water valve. I have removed and discarded all the tanks and plumbing on mine as I am converting it to a side bath. I also am installing 3 11 gal grey water tanks manifolded together. Both grey a black will have their own dump valves plumbed to a common dump line with another dump valve at the discharge port.
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Old 08-03-2016, 06:57 AM   #20
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I can see how someone could connect the sinks to the black water tank if it is above the floor.
Unless the shower pan has been raised the shower would not drain into the above floor BW tank.
Based on that assumption and the fact that you state the water backs into the shower the BW tank must be below the floor.
Does the waste water even run out of the sewer discharge line from the BW tank?
Or has it been totally modified?
I can see how one could connect the sinks to the BW system by using the tank vent pipe. But the shower is a totally different animal.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:31 AM   #21
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The water is disconnected to the toilet. It is the original toilet. I have decided to go with a composting toilet. My black water tank does sit above the frame. I am concerned that the compositing toilet will sit to high. I will get the measurements of it and see.

I do not have a sewer hose, so do I need to buy the Thetford to Valterra universal adapter and then a standard hose to attach to that?
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:25 PM   #22
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Here are pictures of the valve which only spins and does not pull out and the cover of the sewer pipe, obviously by the picture, that is located directly under the tank. This is not normal right?
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Old 08-13-2016, 12:31 PM   #23
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Dont rush out and buy axles or get a tack until you check everything on this trailer and make sure its the one for you. The axles with roll fine if the bearings are ok, there is a localized paranoia here about getting axles.
As for the tank, its a big job and one that need a lot of consideration and knowledge first.
Airstreams are so popular people are rushing to buy them without knowing what is really going on. Sit back, relax and learn.
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Old 08-13-2016, 02:41 PM   #24
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I cannot post a picture here for the life of me! Anyway, my sewer pipe comes right out from under the black water tank straight down. The shut off comes out of the bumper and only twists, it does not pull out. The water from the shower definitely drains directly into the black water tank. I figure for this season I can connect a stinky slinky, (only it wont be stinky because we are only using it for water, and not using the toilet), connect that to a blueboy and get through that way until the winter when we are going to pull out the bathroom, redo the plumbing and check the subfloor for rot. I saw today that my belly pan has pulled away and is also going to need to be replaced.
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Your shut off will pull out, which will empty the black tank straight out the bottom. Make sure there is some liquid in the black tank by looking down the toilet opening with a flashlight. As the water sits in the tank it should loosen up the crud that has the valve frozen. You might also spray some wd 40 up in to the area where the valve handle shaft is. Give everything a day or to soak and loosen up then try pulling out on the handle, carefully with a pair of pliers if gripping the handle is a issue.
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Old 08-14-2016, 11:44 AM   #26
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I cannot post a picture here for the life of me! Anyway, my sewer pipe comes right out from under the black water tank straight down. The shut off comes out of the bumper and only twists, it does not pull out. The water from the shower definitely drains directly into the black water tank. I figure for this season I can connect a stinky slinky, (only it wont be stinky because we are only using it for water, and not using the toilet), connect that to a blueboy and get through that way until the winter when we are going to pull out the bathroom, redo the plumbing and check the subfloor for rot. I saw today that my belly pan has pulled away and is also going to need to be replaced.
download the Airforum app to your phone or ipad, taking & uploading pictures is VERY quick and easy. The website is a little, how should I say .."backwards"
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Old 08-15-2016, 08:12 AM   #27
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So, this is my thought process. We will do outside work now and this winter I think we have to gut her and start from the beginning. The Belly pan is old and falling apart, insulation is starting to hang, I believe the floor in the bathroom is probably rotted, feels soft. At first I assumed it was the shower pan, that it had a little give and didn't quite fit flush to the floor, but I think it is the sub floor. I can see down through the wheel wells to the outside, do people usually try and seal that up? Redo the plumbing to pex, and possibly replace the black water tank with a gray water( or can I just use the black water as a gray water is the tank is in good shape)? and use a composting toilet. From there, redo the bathroom, paint, new cabinets and counter, flooring, lighting. I want to repaint the blue on the Globetrotter. Can I get that exact color somewhere? Also, any ideas of where I can get panels that will match what I have for the outside skin? The three corner panels are damaged pretty good. We pulled out as much as we could with a dent puller, but it still looks really bad. I don't mind a ding here and there, we have those too, haha but this mother is huge!!!
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The tank you use for grey water must be below the drain level of the shower. The tank you use for the toilet must be below the toilet whether the toilet is on a platform or below the floor.
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