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Old 03-13-2015, 08:04 PM   #1
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Adding grey waste tank to 65 Caravel

I have a 1965 Caravel and I currently carry a blue-boy to capture grey waste water. For a variety of reasons I am considering having a grey tank added to the trailer. I have gotten a quote from my favorite Airstream guys of about $2k to install the tank and re-route the pluming and waste outlets. Their plan is to install the tank up in the frame and leave the black tank where it is.

My Question is what others think are the advantages and disadvantaged to this type of upgrade and is it worth the cost?



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Old 03-13-2015, 08:06 PM   #2
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The size tank you will install is probably 12 gal, or that's what fit in mine. Not sure it would be a $2k improvement


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Old 03-13-2015, 08:26 PM   #3
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I have two tanks in my frame that were purchased from Vintage Trailer Supply. They're tied together & hold a total of 32 gallons. The black tank is inside as designed. Here's the link for the tanks:

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Old 03-15-2015, 01:58 PM   #4
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Adding grey waste tank to 65 Caravel

The guys that will install the tank say the waste outlet will hang lower then the black outlet does,currently. More akin to a modern Airstream. Has that been others experience?

I've heard of one example of where an installer separated the black and grey outlet. That does not seem like an arrangement I would want.


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Old 03-15-2015, 03:10 PM   #5
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Here is a picture of our plumbing for the grey tanks. To the left are the tanks (you can only see one, but the other is tied to this one through a pipe & rubber coupling). Then it ties in with the shower drain & runs to the main dump valve. Above the main dump valve is the black tank. They grey tank valve sits right next to the black tank valve & they both dump out of the same main valve, so you only need to put your slinky on once. Pictures explain it better:
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The first picture is the valve that sits under the black tank (it sits with the white end under the black tank, so it's upside down in the picture). The curved pipe is where the grey comes in & there is a gang valve here.
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Old 03-16-2015, 07:13 PM   #6
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My friend here on the sight,, "TG Twinkie" did is trailer with a 20 gallon holding tank under there bed.. I felt it was a slick idea and did it also with our 72 Overlander.. I think he posted his idea under his name over a year ago.

Total cost around $120..

We use a little 12v transfer pump and a ball valve set up to direct the water flow.. It sucks it out of the sink drain,, fills the tank and when time to dump just a matter of flipping ball valves and empty out the normal drain.

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Nice job Becky - I'm getting ready to do the same thing and was wondering if you could post some pictures of where you mounted the dump outlet , would love to see how you tied it all together.
Where inside the trailer did you plumb into the gray tank ?
Does your toilet sit directly on top of the Black tank ?

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Old 03-18-2015, 02:32 PM   #8
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Added tanks

I am in the middle of this exercise on my vintage trailer.
I fitted a black tank above the floor and mounted a low profile toilet on top. I added a VTS 50 inch gray tank between the frame rails and connected both tanks to an existing vent stack. Shower drain connects to gray tank under the floor and both tanks connect to a sanitary collector with separate dump valves. Everything fits above the belly pan except the collector and gray tank valve, both of which will be protected by a hinged lid.
I tied the two sink drains together under the kitchen cabinet and ran the drain line into the top of the gray tank.
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What black tank model did you get ?
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Old 03-18-2015, 09:19 PM   #10
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Nice job Becky - I'm getting ready to do the same thing and was wondering if you could post some pictures of where you mounted the dump outlet , would love to see how you tied it all together.
Where inside the trailer did you plumb into the gray tank ?
Does your toilet sit directly on top of the Black tank ?

Thanks in advance. JD
The toilet sits directly above the black tank & dumps directly under the black tank. The grey tank is tied to the dump right next to the black tank. There is a black tank pull & a grey tank pull in the rear bumper.

The sink in the galley dumps into the grey tank & is vented, and the shower dumps into the grey tank & is vented through the same vent. I can't get into my trailer right now for pictures, but I'll try in the next couple of days.
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