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Old 06-05-2009, 05:17 PM   #1
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adding a toilet and holding tank to a 54 FC

hi, i want to add a toilet to a 54 flying cloud that was a park model. -never had a toilet or holding tank. we are expanding the closet area next to the fridge for the toilet and little sink. the toilet will have to be right next to the wheel well and looking for ideas for holding tank placement. there is room under one of the twin beds (interior) or maybe underneathe belly (exterior) running parallel with the axel near the axel??? any thoughts, links, help?

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Old 06-05-2009, 06:02 PM   #2
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greenrig, I don't think your '54 was a park model. I believe that it never had a toilet to begin with. You need to be aware that where you locate the toilet will depend on where you can run a vent line up thru the roof. You may want to check the interior forums section on bathrooms. Ed

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Old 06-05-2009, 06:56 PM   #3
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You can always box in the vent. Try to keep the holding tank close to the axels. 12 to 15 gals will be fine....

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Old 06-05-2009, 09:38 PM   #4
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venting is not a problem. i like exterior tank idea but i guess there are pro and cons to each: interior or exterior. if i do an exterior am i trying to fit it in between the framing members? or attach to belly skin and make sure fasteners hit framing? what fasteners? weld in? anyone have a blackwater tank on the inside? seems like all exposed to the road elements would tear it up over time but leaks on the inside could be disasterous.
thanks for any input
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Old 06-06-2009, 05:09 AM   #5
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Hi Greenrig--I have a '53 clipper, and "no", many of these just did not have bathrooms.

Mine is totally original, and I don't want to alter it, so I am using a porta potty in the closet for emergencies, and will use the kitchen sink for any washing up. I am considering this trailer to be my "glorified tent", as it doesn't have battery power, water pump or any holding tanks, just hose-fed cold water and direct feed electric. I am planning to add a portable water pump and exterior holding tank for water, with battery and solar powering, and I will just use battery lanterns for light. I will use a blue boy for my grey water.
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Old 06-06-2009, 06:15 PM   #6
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thanks pink,
we pulled our hair out going back and forth about purist this and thats. we decided we want a bathroom. ours never had one, we want one. now i have to figure out how to install a holding tank properly so i dont ruin the whole trailer. please if anyone has experience in adding a holding tank to a 54 FC or similar your knowledge would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 06-06-2009, 06:29 PM   #7
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It may be worth checking out posts from "muddy_hollow"

especially post #55. He installed the vacuflush system in his rig and I'm planning on doing something similar. It is pricey initially but seems to have many substantial benefits one of which is that it would make your location exercise much easier.

I plan of having the black tank installed towards the rear of my coach above and behind the rear axle. The system apparently uses about 1/4 the water of a traditional set up so needs a smaller tank - less weight and as it utilizes a vacuum the tank can be above the head.

Check it out and maybe it's just the thing.

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Old 06-07-2009, 06:14 AM   #8
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thank you truckasaurus, GOOD LINK. and wow, muddy hollow!! -nice work. inspiring. just what i needed.

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