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Old 06-18-2007, 04:28 PM   #41
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That may be true on the dual 6 volts; I have heard many opinions on both sides of the 6v vs. 12v debate. Went with 6v as most of the reading and folksI talked to recommended that over 2 x 12v batteries. One thing is for sure, it is much better than the single 12v battery it came from the factory with.

As far as the running gear being out of balance, I haven't had it checked yet but wouldn't that cause a problem on highway as well? Never had a problem on previous all-pavement trips. Also on this trip we cleaned up all the mess at the top of cottonwood pass and everything was just fine when we got home. In other words, it only rattled apart during the dirt road stretch.

Thanks for the tip on the insurance adjuster. jk
Ohms law says "watts is watts," or "watts are watts."

A 6 volt battery at 200 amps is 1200 watts. W=EI

A 12 volt battery at 100 amps is 1200 watts. W=EI

W= watts. E=voltage I=current in amperes.

Those 2 batteries will be very close to the same size.

When batteries are in series, the whole chain is no better that the weakest battery. If one battery goes south, then the system is done.

When batteries are in parallel, when one goes south, remove it from the system, and your still in business.

NO six volt setup can ever do that, unless perhaps you have 4 six volt batteries in a series parallel setup.

Even at that, if one battery went south, you lost 50 percent of the possible energy.

In the same case using 4 12 batteries in parallel, if one goes south, remove it and your at 75 percent of the possible energy.

They only advantage of six volt batteries, is that they create a greater drain on your pocket book, than the equal 12 volt batteries.

If what you say, that others have a convincing story, then heaven help our commercial airline industry if they used 6 volt battries in series. Also our automobile industry would grind to a halt, if they used 6 volt batteries in series

There is some talk, that with the steady increase of gadgets in cars, that we may have to change our car batteries to 24 volts.

Why??

The higher the voltage, the more efficient batteries become.

Again, ohms law disagrees with the 6 volt in series theory.

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Old 06-18-2007, 10:18 PM   #42
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Hi, Andy. Words from a Ford factory rep. In the near future cars will have a 42 volt system. How they came up with that, I don't know, but I don't know where they came up with 330 volts on their hybrid either. Also read in, I believe Motor Trend, Mercedes Benz was also going to use a 42 volt system. And no, this was not dislexia. (24/42)
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:41 AM   #43
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Hi, Andy. Words from a Ford factory rep. In the near future cars will have a 42 volt system. How they came up with that, I don't know, but I don't know where they came up with 330 volts on their hybrid either. Also read in, I believe Motor Trend, Mercedes Benz was also going to use a 42 volt system. And no, this was not dislexia. (24/42)
The higher the voltage, the less currect, therefore smaller wire.

Just think how large cross country wires would have to be if we transmitted 220 volts AC overhead.

5 to 6 feet in diameter still wouldn't cut it.

Ah yes, when Airstream goes to 42 volts DC, then the 6 volt battery believers will have to install 7 of them.

Good luck with that dream, and weight, and space.

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Old 06-19-2007, 10:49 AM   #44
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I think alot of us did not know this type of damage could happen just by filling the tank. Thank you for posting this on the forums. You have spared many others from the same fate. Hopefully your airstream will be back to it's original condition soon.

Sending a little get well soon Karma your way!
THANK you for posting. This was something I was totally ignorant about. You've saved MANY people from potential problems.

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Old 06-19-2007, 02:10 PM   #46
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hey all,

removal of the tank was pretty easy and have ordered a new one from AS. actually probably could have salvaged the tank but decided to not take any chances and replace it. the tank cover and straps i think can be salvaged, just need to get them back to proper shape.

the tank rupture did not damage any of the cross members; however we did discover some frame damage from the PO which had been hidden by the tank cover (definitely old damage, with rust starting to form - not caused by the tank overfilling).

have moved the rest of this project to the frame and floor repair section. http://www.airforums.com/forums/f36/...tml#post404371

thanks all for your help and advice. jk
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Hi, now that you have the tank out, have you looked at the filler and vent hoses for kinks or restrictions? If there is room, I would cut a piece of plywood to fill the entire area within the frame section where the damaged floor is. Maybe leave an inch or so clearance all around just to be safe. Glue and screw the plywood to the original floor.
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Hi, now that you have the tank out, have you looked at the filler and vent hoses for kinks or restrictions? If there is room, I would cut a piece of plywood to fill the entire area within the frame section where the damaged floor is. Maybe leave an inch or so clearance all around just to be safe. Glue and screw the plywood to the original floor.
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The filler hose looks clear. the vent hose was kinked (too long). will cut it off when i install the new tank. jk
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