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06-05-2016, 11:32 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2000 30' Excella
Toledo
, Ohio
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 493
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mins is behind the wheel I took that extra piece of sheet metal off after cutting my hand on it and tossed it .
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06-06-2016, 12:35 PM
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#22
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnside Bob
Everybody's set up seems different. On mine no hose clamp that I can see. I used two mini pry bars to pull the valve off the tank--valve fits into the hose which stayed inside the tank. Hopefully the valve hosebarb will slide back in or I just made my clog problem into a leak problem!! Doh!!!
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Thanks neighbor! This is a great visual and a good tip on the use of pry bars. I think I'm going to let mine ride for now as I have confirmed the 0/90/180 positions. However if I come across a metal one, I'll probably grab it for a winter project.
Bob
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06-06-2016, 02:19 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 22' Sport
2020 25' International
Clinton
, Land of Purple Mtn Majesty,Montana
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 312
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My trailer is a new 2016 Sport 22' and the fresh water drain valve is "leaking". I know it would be covered by warranty but getting the trailer down to the dealer for such a cheap part and the "waiting" for them to fix it is not good. I'm thinking of ways to "plug" the end of it until the camping season is over here in Montana...or I might just fix it myself. It baffles me how AS puts such a cheap, really cheap, valve on their trailers no matter what level you choose. Spend 50 or a 100 grand and you get the same junk. While I'm venting...I may as well as throw in cabinet door hardware also! How many times has a cabinet door come off in your hands when you opened it? If it weren't for these obvious "junk parts" this trailer would be "perfect"! Why they "cut these corners" just amazes me!
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06-06-2016, 10:43 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2009 25' FB Flying Cloud
1973 31' Sovereign
Mt Angel
, Oregon
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 362
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Got lucky. Barb on valve slid in with a little fussin'. No leaks.
Rpatrick, speaking of cheap parts and all, that valve is a little unusual. Most valves of this type are "open" when the handle is aligned with the long axis of the valve and "off" or "closed" when the handle is turned 90 degrees to the long axis. Not so this little gem--its off when the handle is pointed to the left and straight at you and "open" when the handle is turned to the right.
So, a little grumbling, but my H2O system checked out fine and now all I have to do is get all that bleach solution out of my plumbing!!!
PS. Kept the sheet metal. See Ray Eklund's post above. It does protect the valve a bit from flying debris.
Also, always wise to have a cork finished wine bottle on board. Drink wine, then use cork to stopper any leaks.
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"To err is human, to air is devine."
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06-07-2016, 06:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Sag Harbor
, New York
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 17,523
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnside Bob
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PS. Kept the sheet metal. See Ray Eklund's post above. It does protect the valve a bit from flying debris.
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Thanks for the update. I recommend rounding off the corners of the lower protective "flat" on the sheet metal guard piece. Those squared off corners are sharp as heck !!
A very careless albeit minor detail left unfinished by Airstream.
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06-26-2016, 04:34 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2013 25' FB Eddie Bauer
2012 20' Flying Cloud
Small Town
, *** Big Sky Country ***Western Montana
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,860
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rpatrick16
My trailer is a new 2016 Sport 22' and the fresh water drain valve is "leaking". I know it would be covered by warranty but getting the trailer down to the dealer for such a cheap part and the "waiting" for them to fix it is not good. I'm thinking of ways to "plug" the end of it until the camping season is over here in Montana...or I might just fix it myself. It baffles me how AS puts such a cheap, really cheap, valve on their trailers no matter what level you choose. Spend 50 or a 100 grand and you get the same junk. While I'm venting...I may as well as throw in cabinet door hardware also! How many times has a cabinet door come off in your hands when you opened it? If it weren't for these obvious "junk parts" this trailer would be "perfect"! Why they "cut these corners" just amazes me!
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Wow ... all the way from Clinton to Missoula ??? LOL
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2022 Ford F350 6.2 V-8; equalizer hitch + Shocker air hitch
Honda Eu3200; AIR# 44105; formerly WBCCI 2015.1
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06-28-2016, 10:49 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2016 22' Sport
2020 25' International
Clinton
, Land of Purple Mtn Majesty,Montana
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 312
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mefly2
Wow ... all the way from Clinton to Missoula ??? LOL
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Normally you'd be correct, however, as one who "lives in Montana" yourself...you surely are aware that our "season" is short! It's a brand new unit....I didn't buy it to make "return trips" to the dealer during the "season"...but rather to use it! Furthermore, the dealer informed me they were only working on "emergency needs" of others. Yet, it is disheartening when a .50 cent item, on the part of the manufacture, becomes a "distraction" on a $50M purchase. [/I]
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12-26-2016, 11:01 AM
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Sam and her wheelman Zeke
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
Northern
, Illinois
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 166
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rpatrick16
Normally you'd be correct, however, as one who "lives in Montana" yourself...you surely are aware that our "season" is short! It's a brand new unit....I didn't buy it to make "return trips" to the dealer during the "season"...but rather to use it! Furthermore, the dealer informed me they were only working on "emergency needs" of others. Yet, it is disheartening when a .50 cent item, on the part of the manufacture, becomes a "distraction" on a $50M purchase. [/I]
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I don't care if you live in sunny Florida and the AS dealer is 10 minutes down the highway, you are dead-on right. No one should experience down time because of a failed 50 cent part on a 100k unit.
Can you imagine how cheaply made other manufacturers must be?
Popeye
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11-18-2018, 03:40 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ROBERT CROSS
It is, and eventually it will cease to function....I replaced the flange with THIS and added a 1/4" ball valve.
Bob
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Nice! What did you use for the nice red rubber cap?
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11-18-2018, 03:42 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 27' Flying Cloud
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 773
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billrector
Nice! What did you use for the nice red rubber cap?
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Sorry...didn't realize this thread was this old!
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11-18-2018, 05:34 PM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Here how I did mine. Purchased a cold water cut off valve for a washing machine from Home Depot. It now allows me to put a water hose on the drain and drain water away from trailer.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-1-2-in-Brass-MPT-x-MHT-Washing-Machine-Cold-Water-Valve-10-260-C-EB/205816085
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11-19-2018, 08:16 PM
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#32
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Rivet Master
2009 25' FB Classic
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 850
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To replace my water drain valve I would have to cut a hole in the pan to access the clamp on the back side of the valve. I have been spraying food grade silicone up into the valve while turning it trying to keep it lub
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11-19-2018, 09:27 PM
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"Cloudsplitter"
2003 25' Classic
Houstatlantavegas
, Malebolgia
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 20,000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billrector
Nice! What did you use for the nice red rubber cap?
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As a retired BuckleNuster I have a lot of stuff I never thru out.😂
Bob
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12-19-2018, 12:22 PM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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The fx connection being cracked or the 4 screws loose were the obvious. The loose thump screw connection was the 1st pass and eventual solution...plus no need to disconnect to pull off the fw plate back to tighten the 4 screws.
Posts 2392 & 2396
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f542...27845-171.html
Now it is a regular check.
bob
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12-19-2018, 09:42 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2016 30' Classic
Victoria
, British Columbia
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 78
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Can any member confirm what size flange (3/8 or 1/2 in) is required on a replacement water drain valve. Our unit is a 2016 Classic complete with a broken drain valve.
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12-20-2018, 04:41 AM
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Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
2020 30’ Globetrotter
2014 23' International
Dadeville
, Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 4,516
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Camr
Can any member confirm what size flange (3/8 or 1/2 in) is required on a replacement water drain valve. Our unit is a 2016 Classic complete with a broken drain valve.
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The factory one is 3/8” barbed fitting. I replaced mine with a 1/2” MPT fitting used tas a water supply value for a washing machine. It made of brass and would as can be. Also allows you to connect a hose to drain tank away from the trailer if you want.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...-205816085-_-N
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12-20-2018, 08:28 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 20' Flying Cloud
Washington
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 2,591
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My apologies, i thought i had posted a correction.
The post below was intended for a different thread.
B
QUOTE=CruizinDux;2191652]The fx connection being cracked or the 4 screws loose were the obvious. The loose thump screw connection was the 1st pass and eventual solution...plus no need to disconnect to pull off the fw plate back to tighten the 4 screws.
Posts 2392 & 2396
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f542...27845-171.html
Now it is a regular check.
bob[/QUOTE]
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09-09-2019, 03:24 PM
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#38
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TinPueblo
2015 23' International
Chandler
, Arizona
Join Date: Jan 2019
Posts: 2
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GMFL, nice replacement here on your 23D. I have the same trailer, 2015, and need to replace FW valve, I like your setup.
How did you get access to take your last picture of the layout?
I'll need to go look at mine (in storage), but was researching before I go this weekend to replace. Will do same as you if access it easy. Thanks!
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10-19-2019, 05:20 PM
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honi soit qui mal y pense
2015 23' FB Flying Cloud
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 181
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Why is the Fresh Water Drain Valve Plastic? It's sacrificial.
I suspect the valve is plastic rather than metal to allow it to break off without damaging the aluminum tank when hitting a rock or curb. An engineer would classify it as sacrificial. At $3.50 I would carry an extra or grab a wine cork to solve the problem temporarily. Any thoughts from you other amateur engineers?
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2015 23' FB Flying Cloud
2016 Chev Silverado LT Crew 4x4
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10-19-2019, 05:52 PM
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Rivet Master
2007 28' International CCD
Springfield
, Missouri
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 1,423
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GMFL
The factory one is 3/8” barbed fitting. I replaced mine with a 1/2” MPT fitting used tas a water supply value for a washing machine. It made of brass and would as can be. Also allows you to connect a hose to drain tank away from the trailer if you want.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt...-205816085-_-N
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Nice work
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