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Old 10-16-2007, 12:00 PM   #15
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Tank problems of a different sort

My father has an '82 Bluebird Bus. The water heater is the type that will heat while the engine is running by routing the engine coolant through heat exchangers in the heater. The problem is that he had to install a new water heater and switched the coolant hose with the fresh water hose. The result is he now has engine coolant in the fresh water tank. he has fixed the problem and flushed the system but how can we be sure the antifreeze is back out?
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Old 10-16-2007, 12:07 PM   #16
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If the water taste at all sweet, don't drink it! I don't know if there is a test kit or anything, but I know radiator anti-freeze is poisonous. A woman here in Georgia killed her husband and later her boy-friend by poisoning them with anti-freeze.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:36 PM   #17
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if it doesn't kill you it can ruin your kidneys. have a lab that tests water test it.
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Old 10-16-2007, 08:50 PM   #18
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Oh yeah! That's a really horrible way to go! I'd always heard that if you wanted to get rid of some bad dogs, you inject a steak with antifreeze and throw it at them. Causes internal hemmoraging of the worst kind. Not good at all!


Now that really is a neat way to heat the water in the Bluebird...just got to keep the pipes right.

On the subject of water quality, a friend of mine took his honeymoon in Cozumel. He was careful of the water but forgot about the ice cubes....yep day two to day seven of his honeymoon were pretty well shot.

Cleanliness is next to Godliness in my book. I really like the looks of that AquaSaver. Until then, I'll be doing the chlorox flush every few months.
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:10 PM   #19
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Sure, it's for the shower and stuff.....but I want my tank to be clean enough that I can drink from it.

How can you really know?

Any ideas?

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give it to your dog to drink. if he / she dies, or gets sick, you know you might have a problem. i'm not that hard core, i use my pet gold fish. if he won't drink it, i empty the tank and start over.

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Old 10-28-2007, 04:53 PM   #20
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My father has an '82 Bluebird Bus. The water heater is the type that will heat while the engine is running by routing the engine coolant through heat exchangers in the heater. The problem is that he had to install a new water heater and switched the coolant hose with the fresh water hose. The result is he now has engine coolant in the fresh water tank. he has fixed the problem and flushed the system but how can we be sure the antifreeze is back out?
Aside from a good flushing, consider using non-toxic antifreeze like propyleneglycol.
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Aside from a good flushing, consider using non-toxic antifreeze like propyleneglycol.
at_wanderer, antifreeze (glycol) isn't very toxic to humans if it's been flushed through real well. I would probably fill the tank twice, run the pump through the pipes each time and let it drain out the bottom drain. Disposal of glycol might be regulated -- check with an auto garage. RV and auto antifreeze are both glycol products. The RV type is just an FDA purity without other contaminants. Make your coffee with some spring water jugs from the store for the first couple trips in the spring and you'll be fine. I still do dishes right away after de-winterizing.
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... RV and auto antifreeze are both glycol products...

...The RV type is just an FDA purity without other contaminants.
danger, danger will robinson!

proplylene glycol in small amounts is safe for human consumption fda purity has NOTHING to do with it.

ETHYLENE GLYCOL is highly toxic and LETHAL in even small amounts.

most auto antifreeze is ethylene glycol, although some newer/environmentally friendly versions are not.

NEVER NEVER NEVER put ethylene glycol in water lines. don't even leave it outside anywhere.

the sweet aroma and taste attracts pets and children and it WILL KILL THEM.

the humans that survive often rely on dialysis or renal transplant.

no offense canoe stream, but it is REALLY IMPORTANT to STOP using these terms interchangably...

http://www.airforums.com/forums/f462...eze-31973.html

someone is gonna get hurt.

this is an important enough topic to be made a sticky!!!

there really is ONLY one answer on the antifreeze safety issue.

ingestion of ethylene glycol is a medical emergency, period...

Propylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ethylene glycol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ATSDR - ToxFAQs™: Ethylene Glycol

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I have always know that automotive antifreeze was toxic, but after reading the wiki about it, it is VERY toxic.

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However, as little as 30 milliliters (2 tablespoons) can be lethal to adults
Be careful with this stuff! Do not leave any sitting out where children or pets could get to it. A small radiator leak could leave a puddle large enough to kill.
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And some of us (me) are "very" highly aleragic to propylene glycol.

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the sweet aroma and taste attracts pets and children and it WILL KILL THEM
If left spilt on pavement in a puddle, wildlife will be attracted also...and it is toxic to them, too! Be kind to the environment and clean up any spilt anti-freeze.
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