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Old 08-13-2007, 09:08 AM   #15
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Maybe the tank should be full when on the road

After Nick's post here http://www.airforums.com/forums/430815-post3.html on another thread, I did a seatch on Surface Water Effect. The discussion was that a partially full fresh water tank can lead to instability when towing because of the sloshing of the water. Full and/or empty tanks are stable because they have very little Surface Water Effect.

Also on that same thread 2air provides a link to this product Purogene Fresh Water Treatment Information. This sounds like it might be a solution for keeping the tank fresh and full all the time. 2air gives it a good review. Anyone else use it?

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Old 08-13-2007, 11:25 AM   #16
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Keep it full or empty. I usually keep mine full (60 gals) with about a cup of household bleach in it. You never know when you are goign to need an emergency water.
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Old 08-13-2007, 02:40 PM   #17
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"Potable".... uh don't think so.

I carry water and agree it's better to fill it for stability... found that one out the hard way. Although if you're down to just a gallon or two the slosh factor is minor.

I do wash dishes and myself and operate the throne with the fresh water tank. I don't drink it.

I carry bottled water when I'm away from my home base. I'm not a believer that tap water is bad, in fact my dentist says bottled water is doing wonders for his job security - because people are not getting enough fluoride in their daily diet. I drink tap water at home, but I don't want any trip ruined by getting diarrhea and spending the whole trip getting "ring around the butt" from long uncomfortable sessions in the bathroom. I do add about a cup of bleach when I fill the tank just to keep the green stuff from growing. Bleach ordinarily decomposes in 2 days so in a pinch I could drink it without worrying excessively about the taste. In the desert I would.

Bottled on the road is a personal preference, not a holy grail. In many rural locations you get a lot of iron in the water and I just don't like that taste - and if some campgrounds maintain their well water as badly as they do their sewers... why take any risk. I normally buy a 24 pack of half liter bottles and that lasts for the whole trip.

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Old 08-13-2007, 02:51 PM   #18
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We keep the tank empty other than when we know we are traveling to a site without water. With a 60 gallon tank on our Classic, that's a weighty load to pull, especially in light of the fact that I'm dealing with a slide out and probably the heaviest tandem axle Airstream on the road today.

With the many issues with Marathon tires, I'm pretty much for eliminating any additional weight that absolutely isn't necessary. With the local temps as high as they have been in our neck of the woods, I probably would consider even doing a fill locally at the destination site (or as close as possible) than to carry the additional water weight a long distance.

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Old 08-18-2007, 04:44 AM   #19
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So let me get this right... I am very new to all this, and behind my ears, well it is wet and green at the same time... Ya'll put clorine in your drinking water? And then ya'll go and drink it? I think there has got to be a better way than that. I think I'll drink from a bottle.
Now as far as traveling full versa empty... water weights around 8 pounds per gallon so if the fella previously was to travel full with 60 gallons.. thats around 480 extra pound. Now I didn't know Wally, but, what I have been able to gather from books and such, is that weight was to be kept to a minimum. Light weight materials and construction techniques were utilized specifically by Wally. The goal was to pull a trailer that was "on air". I find it much easier to pull something that is light versa heavy. If your trailer is effected by trucks maybe you should look into weight distribution and sway control as a more effective fix. A water little in the tank is good so that when the next rest stop is closed for renovations you have the freedom to take care your needs.
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Most tap water does have some chlorine in it as well as other items. You put chlorine bleach into the tank at the correct levels, pump that mixture through the supply lines to sanitize the tank and supply lines. Flush it all out when done, then fill the tank up and enjoy.

At 8.6lbs per gallon of water, it is one of the single largest added weight items in the trailer. Wally may have had the idea of a lightweight trailer, but modern luxury items like microwaves, huge fridges, queen sized beds, large BTU a/c units, TVs, stereos, DVD players, corian countertops, much larger BTU furnaces, 80lbs of LP to feed these beasts, all add to the weight making the reality of a lightweight trailer a somewhat thing of the past, as you may have found out, owning a vintage comparing it to a new Airstream.

Airstream came out with the Argosy line and now the "Sport" line to try to get close to that goal of a lighter weight trailer. Bottom line if you want creature comforts, the weights will go up.

I've towed with a full tank of water, half tank of water an no water. Now I can see how you could get into a situation with water sloshing all around, but in my travels so far, the Safari towed more solid with even half a tank of water, which in my case is about 19.5 gallons or about 168lbs. I think the sloshing around isn't as big of a deal due to the fact that the tank is right over the axles (on larger, newer Airstreams). Since it's so low and the trailer itself has a low center of gravity, could be why in a few evasive driving situations on the road (with a half tank or less) I haven't seen any loss of control. Of course, math was never my strong point, and I never took Physics or Geometry, so your result can and most likely will vary.
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I don't worry so much abut the water sloshing in the trailer, but when I brake hard, the waterbed in the van pushes kinda hard on the front seats.
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I don't worry so much abut the water sloshing in the trailer, but when I brake hard, the waterbed in the van pushes kinda hard on the front seats.
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I don't worry so much abut the water sloshing in the trailer, but when I brake hard, the waterbed in the van pushes kinda hard on the front seats.
You gotta disco ball in the van too?
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I don't worry so much abut the water sloshing in the trailer, but when I brake hard, the waterbed in the van pushes kinda hard on the front seats.
that would make a great water tank. just let it drain into the main tank and when you're out of water, it's time to go and you don't need the bed!
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Old 08-20-2007, 02:20 AM   #26
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Also on that same thread 2air provides a link to this product Purogene Fresh Water Treatment Information. This sounds like it might be a solution for keeping the tank fresh and full all the time. 2air gives it a good review. Anyone else use it?
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The active ingredient of Purogene is chlorine dioxide, a chemical used in the disinfection of municipal water supplies, including Naiagra Falls area tratment plant since 1944. It is quoted as being more efficient than chlorine in many aspects of water treatment:
Chlorine dioxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I have been using it for the past 7 years to treat the water in our Airstream tank. It is marketed in the UK as Aquasol, for example.
Sanitation Products: Chandlery World
I have been unable to detect any taste in the water, it is quick acting, and economical. We have had no health problems associated with water in the past 7 years, and we fill our tank from an untreated well.
I recommend the use of chlorine dioxide in our trailers.
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TinHut reported last year that he used Purogene:

http://www.airforums.com/forums/172223-post9.html

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Back when I worked (and laid off from) at most of the major airlines in Denver, We used Puregene to sanitize the aircraft"s water systems.
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