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Old 07-20-2006, 09:28 AM   #1
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Can't fill water tank.

I had posted a thread this past week saying that I thought my water read out fell out of calibration as I thought I had filled it before I left and it indicated about 1/4 full.

Well, after barely using any water on our trip I'm out. I went to start hauling a couple gallons into the filler area and before I got the 1st gallon in it started overfilling!

Could the filler tube be clogged? Any one have any suggestions?


Sorry if I didn't do any previous searchs on this issue. My connection is really slow using my Sprint phone so it's annoying to look anywhere on the net.

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Old 07-20-2006, 10:02 AM   #2
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Why don't you try slipping a smaller diameter piece of hose in there & see if it's blocked. If it's not, you could put your finger over the end of the hose & see how much water you have in your tank. Get some at the hardware store--it's clear, so you can see the level of water. You could also blow in the end of it if there is any blockage.


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Old 07-20-2006, 10:51 AM   #3
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Lightbulb Vent ???

`Make sure the vent is opened.

Yours may have a plastic pin-like (~1/8" dia) that plugs a small hole on the face plate of the fill fitting. Like - next to the fill pipe opening. Usually the pin is part of the fill cap retainer that keeps the cap attached to the face plate while filling.

Check it out, it may be that simple (if you're lucky)

If the vent is not breathing, a high volume of water will back up into the fill hose. Further, even with the vent breathing (quite a small ID) if you fill too fast you will also experience this condition.

Maybe you just need to fill half-fast!
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Old 07-20-2006, 12:55 PM   #4
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I'm not sure where it would be located in your Safari, but I would try to find the FW tank inside the trailer.

Mine is located below a hatch under the dinette. It is translucent so I can get a good idea of how much water is in the tank by looking at thee side of the tank. A flashlight against the top of the tank sometimes helps to see.

So if your tank is empty or low, and the outside filler-upper thing backs up, then it does sound like an obstruction on the way to the FW tank.

When you say you are out of water, do you still hear the pump trying to circulate water. Dumbest ??? of all, but is pump on?

The sensors in the AS are useless to me, and I now seldom even turn on the system check switch as I've really gotten a good mental idea of my trailers behaviors, good and bad. Someday when I make it to Jackson Center, maybe I'll have them look at it.

Let us know what you find.

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Old 07-20-2006, 01:40 PM   #5
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I've had a couple of instances where I'd turn the pump on to use water and it would run without pumping any. At first, before I knew my water usage habits, I thought I had used all the water on board. I tried to fill it and after about a gallon or three, it spilled out as well. My indicators showed full, but nothing in the pump. I have since found out that when this happens and I know I have water in the tanks, open a faucet and purge the air...about 30 seconds later, water! Odd because it would've just been used earlier in the day. I'm guessing this is something in the pump like the backflow valve that, over the course of a half day of driving, lets the prime out and flow back to the tank??? The pump holds pressure when left on and/or water is in and flowing so maybe not so??? Regardless, I think this is some kind of air pocket in the lines. It's happened about once a year since new so unless it gets worse, I won't be looking much closer.
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Old 07-21-2006, 10:28 PM   #6
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I removed the plastic cover that has the locking door for the fresh water (4 sheet metal screws and some pulling) to expose the hose going into the fresh water tank. To my suprise AS had assembled it poorly causing the hose to be colapsed almost all the way shut.
Basically this plastic hose that attaches to the plastic piece that has the cap where you fill (I wish I had a more accurate description) had two issues. One, the hose clamp was at such an angle it had cut the plastic hose somewhat and collapsed the hose. Secondly, the hose has sections every 8 inches or so that are more appropriate for hose clamps, it actually is flattened to help get a better seal. AS did not use that action but used the wrong section.
Frickin frustrating.
I know what I'll hear from the adamant AS people hear but these little things are really pissing me off. I expect perfection for the money I'm paying. I know it's under warranty but I'm sick of spending 2 hours of driving (1/2 hour each way) every time there is a problem.

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