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Old 01-15-2013, 01:53 PM   #1
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Argosy city water inlet

Help please,
I am a member here, former lurker from the shadows, and now the 3rd owner of a '73 Argosy 20. The first owner owned it from new, for all but one of it's years. For the most part it is quite original but a couple of things about the fresh water plumbing don't make sense. The inlet for city water sit about 36 inches abouve the reak bumper, just off the streetside corner. I have not seen that in other trailers. I have completely gotted and restored a Scamp and 2 Casitas and this placement is a new one for me. I do admit this is my first Airstream or Argosy, but others I have seen have been down in or near the storage compartment in the rear bumpoer. Is this the normal placement or something from the PO?

Also I have discover a 4-5 gal Rheem 110 V water heater under the kitchen sink. A buddy who has had Airstreams, some vintage, says this wasn't unusual in older ones where someone wanted elect hot water???????

The good news is that almost everything from the bathroom to the kitchen has been converted to Pex. All I have to do is put in a new Sureflo and Pex from the water tank through the water heater to connect up with the bath. Currently it appears to be green garden hose......go figure.

Thanks for any help..I will surely have more questions along the ride.

Greg
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:29 PM   #2
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The city water inlet sounds like it is in the same place as it is on my '74 Argosy 26'. Entering the trailer about 8" above the floor.
My trailer originally had a Bowen 6 gallon gas fired water heater. I replaced it with a 6 gallon Atwood. No modifications required. I don't believe they came with an electric only water heater.
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Old 01-15-2013, 05:18 PM   #3
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Argosy city water inlet

Greetings Greg!

Welcome to the Forums and the world of Vintage Argosy ownership!

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Help please,
I am a member here, former lurker from the shadows, and now the 3rd owner of a '73 Argosy 20. The first owner owned it from new, for all but one of it's years. For the most part it is quite original but a couple of things about the fresh water plumbing don't make sense. The inlet for city water sit about 36 inches abouve the reak bumper, just off the streetside corner. I have not seen that in other trailers. I have completely gotted and restored a Scamp and 2 Casitas and this placement is a new one for me. I do admit this is my first Airstream or Argosy, but others I have seen have been down in or near the storage compartment in the rear bumpoer. Is this the normal placement or something from the PO?
There are very few absolutes when it comes to design features on Vintage Argosy and Airstream products. Starting sometime in the 1960s, Airstream began placing the city water inlet on the frame member to which the rear bumper mounted (usually on the streetside). This practice continued through the 1970s and into the 1980s according to my understanding. Most Argosy travel travel trailers followed the Airstream practice, but as the Argosy was something of a test bed for new ideas there are many reports of features that appeared on only a few coaches so it would be quite difficult to say with confidence whether your city water inlet is stock or a change made by one of the previous owners. I must admit that when I hear reports of these unusual features that I wonder whether it might indicate a difference linked to the plant of origin in the Argosy's VIN. There have recently come to light a number of trailers with an "S" in the VIN for plant where produced rather than the usual "V" -- it is known that the "V" indicates Versailles, OH -- but there is no confirmation what the "S" indicates with speculation being Cerritos, CA (Argosy literature as late as 1979 listed the California plant along with the Ohio plant).

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Also I have discover a 4-5 gal Rheem 110 V water heater under the kitchen sink. A buddy who has had Airstreams, some vintage, says this wasn't unusual in older ones where someone wanted elect hot water???????
I don't believe that I have ever heard of the factory equipping an Argosy with an electric water heater as described. It wasn't terribly uncommon for Airstreams of the 1950s to have such a set-up, and I have heard of one or two very early 1960s Airstreams so equipped. There is a remote possibility that this may be a custom feature added by the factory to satisfy the first owner as this was a typical practice with Airstream products of the period. Again, this is something that would be difficult to substantiate as being original or added aftermarket.

Good luck with your Argosy!

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Old 01-15-2013, 07:16 PM   #4
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The water inlet sounds like it is about in the location that the one on my '74, 20' Argosy. I am sure it is original on mine.

The water heater on mine was a propane one, and under the road side bed, as well as the furnace.

As Kevin said, Argosy's had many different variations that have been identified, but as far as I know there never were electric water heaters put in them from the factory. So, I suspect that is a PO change made at some point in time.
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I have a 1973 20' Argosy and the city water inlet is in the place you describe. It also came with an Atwood 6 gallon propane water heater. I have changed that out to an Atwood 6 gallon DSI with 110v electric option.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:10 AM   #6
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Thanks to all for the info. I am sure I will have more questions as the adventure progresses.

To clarify, my Argosy also has the propane water heater and the furnace in the OEM location. I think the electric heater was an attempt to do an owner added dual fuel system.

As soon as I put in a new SURflow and some addition Pex and have confirmed the integrity of the city and on-board water systems, I will tackle testing the water heater and furnace. My inclination is to take out the electric and replace the original gas water heater with a new dual fuel as the previous poster did. Any thoughts?

Also on track to replace the original inverter with a new, smart charge, 3 step unit.

Thanks again

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Just to clarify. You want a new CONVERTER not an INVERTER.
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