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Old 08-18-2010, 09:36 PM   #1
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zip dee seems to be seized

I have been reading thru the forums on zip dee awnings but still feel I could do with some expert advice. We live in New Zealand and recently imported a 77 globetrotter from Southern California where the AS spent most of her life by the sea. We had trouble unrolling the awning. Thinking that maybe it was seized and could be freed up once we had it closer to the ground we removed the arms and manually unrolled it as there seems to be no tension on it and was stuck closed. We found that the tube the fabric is connected to can be turned by hand only with great difficulty which seems to point to an internal problem, maybe the salt air?? I watched a couple of videos on tensioning but it seems the only way we can wind the end on this awning to tension it is to hold the tube with a monkey wrench to stop it turning which doesnt seem right!! I am wary of drilling out the rivets and pulling the whole thing apart but quite prepared to do so if needed...any ideas. Also we are wanting to polish the AS and the exterior is showing a lot of corrosion build up from the salt air and wondered if I need to treat it with something or just polish it off
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Old 08-18-2010, 10:32 PM   #2
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I think your guess about salt corrosion is the most likely explanation.The shaft on the forward end of the roller should turn freely. You should be able to use the awning arm to turn the rear shaft easily if it is not under tension. The spring is attached to the rear end but is simple to remove. Be careful with the spring end as it may be under tension and you may end up with one of these (my thumb):

http://cdn.airforums.com/forums/atta...1&d=1241971561

Hopefully you can clean it up. The roller end assemblies are available from Zipdee. Maintainance info and diagrams are available at the Zipdee Awning website. They are also very helpful through email or phone.

With that much salt I would also check out the coach's frame. Surface rust is normal. Serious corrosion is a whole different matter.
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I have been reading thru the forums on zip dee awnings but still feel I could do with some expert advice. We live in New Zealand and recently imported a 77 globetrotter from Southern California where the AS spent most of her life by the sea. We had trouble unrolling the awning. Thinking that maybe it was seized and could be freed up once we had it closer to the ground we removed the arms and manually unrolled it as there seems to be no tension on it and was stuck closed. We found that the tube the fabric is connected to can be turned by hand only with great difficulty which seems to point to an internal problem, maybe the salt air?? I watched a couple of videos on tensioning but it seems the only way we can wind the end on this awning to tension it is to hold the tube with a monkey wrench to stop it turning which doesnt seem right!! I am wary of drilling out the rivets and pulling the whole thing apart but quite prepared to do so if needed...any ideas. Also we are wanting to polish the AS and the exterior is showing a lot of corrosion build up from the salt air and wondered if I need to treat it with something or just polish it off
Your best bet would be to call the Zip Dee factory.

Their toll free number is 800-338BEST.

Ask for Linda or Randy.

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Old 08-18-2010, 11:27 PM   #4
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thumbs up!!!

thanx for your quick response it helps to know the little tricks ...that thumb looks nasty!! I will look at pulling it apart in the weekend and hopfully freeing things up
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Calling ZipDee is the best way to go. This is what your awning roll parts look like: Awnings By ZipDee
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thanx for your quick response it helps to know the little tricks ...that thumb looks nasty!! I will look at pulling it apart in the weekend and hopfully freeing things up
Be EXTREMELY careful of the spring that's at the rear of the tube.

If it's still wound up, releasing it can cause severe bodily injury faster than you can blink an eye.

USE EXTREME CAUTION.

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where are zip dee

thanx for that Andy, I had considered that but being down here in the South Pacific we are 17 hours ahead of you up there in the States .....where are Zip dee as I dont want to get the time difference wrong and call them at 3 am!! hehehe
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thanx for that Andy, I had considered that but being down here in the South Pacific we are 17 hours ahead of you up there in the States .....where are Zip dee as I dont want to get the time difference wrong and call them at 3 am!! hehehe
Near Chicago, Illinois, or GMT-5:00, Daylight Saving Time. The link will take you to Chicago time.

Good luck with the Zip Dee.
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This is what your awning roll parts look like: Awnings By ZipDee
This diagram shows the "Z lock" on the ends of the roller tube. Most
Airstreams do not have them. In reference to the above photograph of my digit and Andy's appropriate cautionary recommendation I put on a awning with a Z lock on my coach. Being more curious than cautious about the function of said lever I pulled said lever causing a serious blow somewhat akin to a rodent in a mousetrap.
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Old 08-19-2010, 05:11 PM   #10
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Easy fix in the end

Thanks everyone for your help and advice, on close inspection I found what appears to be lubrication holes for the shaft on the end of the tube one was completely clogged with crud which looked like salt corrosion which was easily cleaned out with a needle... a bit of WD 40 in the holes and working the awning back and forth had it turning freely again. I have also cleaned up all the arms which also had a bit of build up and sprayed them with silicone and it all works like a charm now....next job will be to strip the clear coat and polish her up ready for our summer in a few months.
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I love a happy ending. Thanks for sharing.

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