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Old 04-13-2007, 09:40 PM   #15
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When we hear it flapping in the wind, we roll it up.
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Old 04-14-2007, 12:03 AM   #16
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I've pretty much gone by the same theory as others, that if it's starting to give you too much movement, it's time to roll it up. Nothing worse than to try to roll up the awning in high wind.

One thing I bought and haven't used with the Airstream is a tiedown strap. This was a thick strap that fit over the top of the awning and attached to springs that were staked into the ground. I used to use this when we did a lot of ocean front camping where the wind is usually present. It did a great job in keeping the awning from flapping around and kept the arms from being stressed.

I still have that tie down strap and probably wouldn't hesitate to use it if we were back doing the ocean front camping again.

In practice I've found that my Zip-Dee is much more stable than any awning on my previous SOB's.

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Old 04-14-2007, 07:18 AM   #17
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... not to mention rain. A quick thunderstorm caught us once, the water pooled on top and the rear support arm folded like a cheap umbrella. Not good times.
The pooling water issue is easily solved if you raise the front part of the awning up a notch higher than the rear. By doing that, you give the rain a "down hill" slope to drain off the awning. Regardless of the weather, I always notch the front up higher so I'm prepared in the event of an unexpected downpour. Also, unless there are strong winds, I prefer to keep my awning open during a rainstorm. It provides a covered "porch" area for getting in and out of the trailer without the rain following me into the trailer everytime I open the door.

With regards to the wind, if my awning arms are creaking from the strain of wind, that is my indicator to roll it up.
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I've pretty much gone by the same theory as others, that if it's starting to give you too much movement, it's time to roll it up. Nothing worse than to try to roll up the awning in high wind.

One thing I bought and haven't used with the Airstream is a tiedown strap. This was a thick strap that fit over the top of the awning and attached to springs that were staked into the ground. I used to use this when we did a lot of ocean front camping where the wind is usually present. It did a great job in keeping the awning from flapping around and kept the arms from being stressed.

I still have that tie down strap and probably wouldn't hesitate to use it if we were back doing the ocean front camping again.

In practice I've found that my Zip-Dee is much more stable than any awning on my previous SOB's.

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I'm not sure I'd trust a tiedown strap for anything other than what you mentioned Jack - as a "quieting device." Beyond that, IMHO, tiedowns provide a false sense of security - and our awnings are too rigidly mounted for the flexibility of the tiedown springs to provide anything more than just enough tension to keep things quiet. If a stake was to ever pull out it probably means the awning is headed south over the trailer! In truth, there's probably nothing we can do to reduce the risk of damage - outside of simply folding them up. Awnings are a "must have" item but they're really a fair weather piece of equipment.
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Old 04-14-2007, 09:36 AM   #19
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Cracker raises a good question about wind speed, "how do you tell what the wind speed is". One answer is to get a anemometer, like a Kistrel or a Halls Brothers. I purchased a hang glider anemometer from Aircraft Spruce for about $22 and it reads wind speeds from about 5mph to 40mph. It works great and it's analog (never needs serviceing or batteries). In the absence of one of these instruments, you can use this guide.
0-4mph glassy water
4-8mph slight ripples on the water
8-11mph sight waves on the water but no white caps
11-12mph whitecaps first start to appear and are randomly spaced
12-16mph whitecaps become more numerous and evenly spaced
17-30mph whitecaps become much more numerous & windsurfers start to appear from nowhere
30-40 mph water starts to look like the top of your cafe' latte'
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:56 PM   #20
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We took notes from the guy in front of us when camping with ours the first year. He left his out the hole time but let it all the way down so water couldn't pool and the wind couldn't get under it as easily.
We left it out for the hole 6 months it was at the camp ground. Except for one time when they where calling for tornadoes. Had to make a special trip down there (30 miles away) to roll it up then.
Other than that we just let it up or down in front depending on the weather or when we left.
How ever we are usually parked with our back to the wind in a cove. All the camp sites where we camp are in coves of a lake.
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Old 04-18-2007, 06:50 AM   #21
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17-30mph whitecaps become much more numerous & windsurfers start to appear from nowhere

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Hey Bob,

Actually, that depends on where you are geographically. Out in Oregon on the Columbia River, it starts at about 25-30 . The folks in Corpus tend to sail at lower wind speeds.............

Seems to me that they always appear from the shoreline
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Yeh, but we don't have to share waves with sturgeon! Although, most of us turn to face in the direction of Hood River for a few private moments of silence two times a day!
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0-4mph glassy water
4-8mph slight ripples on the water
8-11mph sight waves on the water but no white caps
11-12mph whitecaps first start to appear and are randomly spaced
12-16mph whitecaps become more numerous and evenly spaced
17-30mph whitecaps become much more numerous & windsurfers start to appear from nowhere
30-40 mph water starts to look like the top of your cafe' latte'
I have seen this guide before but unfortunately it only works near the water!
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Old 04-19-2007, 07:44 AM   #24
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The guide I use in Florida during the winter near the east coast is:
Wind from the street side can get to 20mph. Curbside or frt/rear limit to 15mph. Be sure your weather forecast are fairly accurate. If you'll be away say 4 hours or more and it's a marginal call, bring it in. If it's anything close to marginal at night, bring it in. Zip Dee's are easy to work with.
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