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Old 02-22-2009, 08:53 PM   #1
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What size TT have the same size awnings

I'm looking around for a used unit to buy the awning from that will fit our '77 31'

The main awning is just about 21' long, besides another 31' what others may fit?
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:36 PM   #2
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Hi Bob - I think Inland has spoken about approximating awning length. Since the awning attaches at the most forward and aft bows, subtract A-frame and both dome-end lengths from overall trailer length. So that comes to almost 9' added to the length of the awning. Will a 21' awning fit a 30' as well as a 31'? I can't quite say that. Anyone?
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Hi Bob - I think Inland has spoken about approximating awning length. Since the awning attaches at the most forward and aft bows, subtract A-frame and both dome-end lengths from overall trailer length. So that comes to almost 9' added to the length of the awning. Will a 21' awning fit a 30' as well as a 31'? I can't quite say that. Anyone?
The correct Zip Dee size awning, is 3/4 inch shorter than the awning rail. A 31 foot Airstream has a 21 foot awning rail, and the correct Zip Dee awning size is 20 feet 11 1/4 inches.

Different sizes can be used on a 31 foot Airstream, as an example, but the arms "MUST" be attached to a main bow.

Only the owner then can determine exactly what other lengths can be used, since the location of main bows varies from trailer to trailer, except for the very first and last main bow.

Keep in mind the location of windows, access doors, etc.

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Old 02-23-2009, 07:09 PM   #4
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Andy can a longer awning be cut down a few inches/feet?

The next frame would be at 17' 7" is that possible to find on another smaller AS?
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Thumbs up Glad you asked. Have never seen it asked before.

Great question. And usual great info from Inland Andy.

Andy was rib/bow placement always the same for every particular model (and floor plan) during a particular model year?
That is; there hopefully was nothing random during a model year in placing the ribs/bows...was there?

Also Andy you mention "main" bows. Are not all bows equal? In size and quality?
I guess some may be broken by windows, hatches etc and would then be "cripple" ribs/bows..?

And isn't there a type of awning that uses down-poles instead of the bow arms? Maybe those were never Zip-Dee.
Whatever those old ones were called, will they attach to the newer style awning rails?

And lastly are all awning rails since 1969 the same (except for length of course) ?
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Old 03-02-2009, 02:20 PM   #6
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Andy can a longer awning be cut down a few inches/feet?

The next frame would be at 17' 7" is that possible to find on another smaller AS?
Yes, awnings can be cut down.

Be careful with the springs, as they are under tension.

Not sure what your second question is about.

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Great question. And usual great info from Inland Andy.

Andy was rib/bow placement always the same for every particular model (and floor plan) during a particular model year?
That is; there hopefully was nothing random during a model year in placing the ribs/bows...was there?

Also Andy you mention "main" bows. Are not all bows equal? In size and quality?
I guess some may be broken by windows, hatches etc and would then be "cripple" ribs/bows..?

And isn't there a type of awning that uses down-poles instead of the bow arms? Maybe those were never Zip-Dee.
Whatever those old ones were called, will they attach to the newer style awning rails?

And lastly are all awning rails since 1969 the same (except for length of course) ?
The only main bows location that is consistant, is the first one and last one.

Airstream calls them "main bows", but ribs are the same thing.

Most awnings should attach to the "awning rail." If it did not, then I would have nothing to do with that particular awning.

All awning rails that Airstream has used since the early 60's, are exactly the same.

However, they may not be in the same exact location, especially in the early 60's.

If awning arms are used, they must be attached to a main bow for strength. The same is true for a "center support" if used.

Yes, many times Airstream cuts thru a main bow to install a window or an appliance or an access door.

Seldom does that cause a problem, but it's not impossible to happen, especially around the wheel wells.

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Found a 19 ft awning can I use it on my 31 foot

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The correct Zip Dee size awning, is 3/4 inch shorter than the awning rail. A 31 foot Airstream has a 21 foot awning rail, and the correct Zip Dee awning size is 20 feet 11 1/4 inches.

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I found a 19 ft awning and I was wondering if it had to be the 20 ft and 11 1/4 inches or could I buy the 19 ft?
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I found a 19 ft awning and I was wondering if it had to be the 20 ft and 11 1/4 inches or could I buy the 19 ft?
The awning "arms" MUST be mounted to a main bow.

A 19 foot awning will not work on a 31 foot trailer, unless you cut it down so that the front and rear arms can be attached to a main bow.

If you use the 19 foot awning, it will rip loose from the shell when the first gust of wind hits it.

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Thank you so much for the clarification. I appreciate it and will not be buying the 19 ft awning.
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Thanks Andy, this is awesome information! I am too in the market for a Zipdee awning for my '73 Argosy 26 (which has never seen an awning).

Andy, this may be a silly question, but would I need to install a separate rail or will the rain gutter work? Does zip dee have this hardware or will I have to find the rail elsewhere?

Will I need to reinforce the main bows in any way to support the awning arms?
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Thanks Andy, this is awesome information! I am too in the market for a Zipdee awning for my '73 Argosy 26 (which has never seen an awning).

Andy, this may be a silly question, but would I need to install a separate rail or will the rain gutter work? Does zip dee have this hardware or will I have to find the rail elsewhere?

Will I need to reinforce the main bows in any way to support the awning arms?
1. No.
2. You already have an awning rail on the curb side of your Argosy.
3. Complete hardware is supplied with the awning.
4. All you need to do is order the awning from someone that routinely
supplies them, as well as provide the trailer serial number to make super sure of the size.
5. You should also add a "center support".
6. Nothing needs to be reinforced, as long as the main bows are used.

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