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Old 01-22-2013, 08:03 AM   #15
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They do have wind sensors, seen them on a prevost. The term we have always known this style is "air-electric ZipDee."
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:06 AM   #16
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One would have to ask why. It takes about 1 minute to open or close a manual ZippDee, same to close it. Two minutes if you take your time.

Auto wind sensor, would you really leave and trust this gizmo to protect your 3 times the price ZippDee?

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Takes me 4 minuets. Lol. I agree, very expensive for the little work involved to do it manually and it's one more thing to break down.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:36 AM   #18
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One would have to ask why. It takes about 1 minute to open or close a manual ZippDee, same to close it. Two minutes if you take your time.

Auto wind sensor, would you really leave and trust this gizmo to protect your 3 times the price ZippDee?

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Some folks still like "stick shift" transmissions in cars and trucks.

All depends on what comforts an owner wants to enjoy.

Biggest customers will be those that have many types of handicaps.

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Old 01-22-2013, 09:54 AM   #19
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Andy, how did you know in over 50 years of driving I recently got my first auto transmission, only because they didn't offer a stick. My left foot still lifts every time I come to a stop sign.

Good point about the handicaps.

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Old 01-22-2013, 10:05 AM   #20
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Andy, how did you know in over 50 years of driving I recently got my first auto transmission, only because they didn't offer a stick.

Good point about the handicaps.

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The auto industry has really changed.

I wanted the old fashioned complete front seat in a 2013 car.

No more.

Only split front bucket seats.

Oh well, I can only sit in one at a time, anyway.

And then, no more automatic windshield wipers.

No more lane change warnings.

No more 12 CD player.

But, built in navigation to go 1.6 miles to work and back.

And, a 6 speed auto transmission, that gives you a "hot rod", without super charging.

They must have found out that I'm "polish".

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Old 01-22-2013, 10:22 AM   #21
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Can't wait for the self-driving car, that'll be fun. Maybe stay home and "sense" a virtual road trip on all the new electronics would be even better.

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Old 01-22-2013, 11:39 AM   #22
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Just last week I saw a used motorized end for a ZipDee (it said it was off of a Prevost?)... EBay's opening bid...
$950
The Zip-Dee awnings that are used on Prevost conversions are a totally different type. The have lateral arms that fold into a box, along with the lead rail. The fabric and roller stay attached to the coach and stay in the box.....sort of a backwards system, but having lateral arms there are no vertical arms or supports extending along the side wall of the coach. these awnings are also 120VAC operation only. They are also very slick looking, but over $6000 plus installation.

This new Zip-Dee is a variation of a very similar unit that they discontinued several years ago that worked on air pressure to extend and retract. Many were in constant need of adjustment and tweaking, pr to have the pneumatic arms re-built.

I honestly don't see this design, which is quite similar with the exception of the 12VDC motor in the roller tube, along with the tilt motors in the arms, being that different. Should be a real can of worms to work on, plus, it is dead slow when compared to other electric type patio awnings.

Sorry Zip-Dee.........I just don't see this as a competitive product in this market segment.

PS: Never, NEVER trust a wind sensor!!! I can't count the number of drastic situations where wind sensors have failed to register gusts that have bent arms, ripped fabric or placed the awning on RV roofs needing cut-off wheels to remove the mangled metal. Not to mention the damage to the coach itself.
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Old 01-22-2013, 11:50 AM   #23
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Seems like this 12 volt powered awning is like a 12 volt powered hand cart for golfing.

Kinda like something about a female boar hog…

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Can't wait for the self-driving car, that'll be fun. Maybe stay home and "sense" a virtual road trip on all the new electronics would be even better.

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The folks at Google Earth already have a self-driving car. Last I heard, it only is allowed to operate in the state of Nevada…

Anyway, more on the topic at hand, if you're not fanatical about using a Zip-Dee, late-model Airstream Interstates use a Fiamma model F65 12v electric awning, with a hand crank backup system in case of a power outage. It's 13 feet in length, and extends out 8 feet at full entension. You can either run the support legs at an angle back to clips on the side of the RV, or put them straight down and peg them into the ground so there's no angled piece of metal to bang your head on when you're not paying attention.

No idea what they cost when ordered separately, or how the price compares to an electric Zip-Dee.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:50 PM   #25
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Okie Dokie -- we aren't going to be getting this anytime soon! To retrofit our current ZipDee awning on a 21" Airstream was almost $3800 and a new system was over $5k! Now that we (finally) have the hang of opening/closing it, we'll just be going "old school" for the awning!
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I figure when I'm too old or too feeble to open the awning, that's a message that it's time to take my key ring and throw it into the woods like I always threatened to do when I retired from trucking. Sal
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Old 04-03-2013, 06:10 PM   #27
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I spent a little time trying to find out the price for the retrofit kit and couldn't. You have to e-mail ZipDee for a price, but it appears Suzzee already got a quote. Much too much. I tried OutofDoors Mart and their website is awful; the search function doesn't give any info. I should have tired another vendor, but decided this is not worth it.

We don't use ours very much and always forget how to do it and find the awning to be clunky to operate. My wife looks at the video several times a year and we stumble through it.

I don't know why people say ZipDee is such a good product since it is hard to use and very vulnerable to wind.

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Old 04-03-2013, 07:36 PM   #28
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We find out Zip Dee awning quite easy to operate. There is a sequence of events to follow in deploying it and putting it away, but if you seldom use it, you probably won't retain it.

By the way, all awnings, no matter the brand are somewhat vulnerable to wind.
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