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Old 06-07-2006, 11:25 PM   #29
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hmmm...

So many good reasons for having the awnings. Still, aesthetically, I prefer these trailers without the hardware and appurtenances hanging all over them. Also, mine has the long curbside Zip Dee. I'm 6'1" agile and mechanical
yet would probably not put it up if I didn't have a help mate.
Perhaps InsideOut is on the right track: Find something with the look plus the ease of deployment.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:13 AM   #30
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Without a doubt the more stuff we put on the less aerodynamic the Airstream becomes. It probably doesn't take too much to ruin the airflow, both on the roof and hanging down from the pan. I even suspect that a rolled up awning creates lift in a crosswind, or when being passed by a big truck. Instead of the pressure flowing around the body, the awning tube creates a low pressure area on top. I'd love to see a study on that to test my hypothesis. It could explain some instances where drivers have lost control.
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:27 AM   #31
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Still, I love my ZipDee awning. Shari said she can get her vintage style awning up almost as fast, but she's dreaming. I've timed getting my ZipDee fully deployed, locked in position, and can easily do it in under sixty seconds and often only take 45 seconds. I've watched Shari staking hers out by herself and five minutes is if everything goes well. Keep in mind that a vintage style awing has to be staked. There is no option on that. I can stake my ZipDee for added stability, but don't have to. There are places where a ZipDee can be deployed, but you can not drive stakes. Sites where you are parked on a lot of loose gravel, or sand that will not hold a stake. Sites that are so rocky that you can not drive a stake. Sites that are asphalt or concrete (parking lots for instance). Sites that are water logged and the ground is too muddy to hold a stake. So on and so forth, and in all those situations a ZipDee can still be used. But there is a price to pay for that convenience.
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Without a doubt the more stuff we put on the less aerodynamic the Airstream becomes. It probably doesn't take too much to ruin the airflow, both on the roof and hanging down from the pan.
Interesting, however aesthetics and price were more of a concern for me.
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Keep in mind that a vintage style awing has to be staked. There is no option on that.
True. However I haven't run into a place I couldn't set it up. I have tied a rope to a tree before...

One other thing is when we are at a tight gathering, like some rallies, we do require more room between our trailer and the next one in order to set it up...uh, is that a bad thing?

Whatever works, not everybody is going to agree...as I stated in Post #13, "it's another point of view" for the aesthetically-minded or $$$-challenged folks.

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Old 06-08-2006, 01:03 AM   #33
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Keep in mind that a vintage style awing has to be staked.
Meaning its far more difficult to kill vampires with a Zip Dee.
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Old 06-08-2006, 07:02 PM   #34
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Interesting, however aesthetics and price were more of a concern for me.
The other driving concern was the awning arm interfering with the door. Our door is hinged on the right. The ZipDee arm would be right next to the hinged side of the door, which would prevent the door from being opened 180 degrees. Whether or not the awning was lowered, the arm would interfere. With the door-in-a-door of the early 60's that means I wouldn't ever be able to latch open the screen portion either, it would only open 90-degrees. I do know there used to be releasable arm bracket that would allow the door to open when the awning was employeed, however it wouldn't help it the awning was stowed and that part is no longer available.

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Old 06-08-2006, 07:16 PM   #35
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Well the vintage awning sure looks great with the vintage units. I find the rope lines very nostalgic and camp like. I wonder if I could make some window awnings for the safari using your method of attachment or something similar. Good pictures Shari.

What I would like to see at the next event though is the awning deployment competition, I think the sport could catch on and be even bigger than log rolling.
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Old 06-08-2006, 09:29 PM   #36
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I wonder if I could make some window awnings for the safari using your method of attachment or something similar. Good pictures Shari.
No reason you couldn't as long as your windows hinge open at the top!

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Without a doubt the more stuff we put on the less aerodynamic the Airstream becomes. It probably doesn't take too much to ruin the airflow, both on the roof and hanging down from the pan. I even suspect that a rolled up awning creates lift in a crosswind, or when being passed by a big truck. Instead of the pressure flowing around the body, the awning tube creates a low pressure area on top. I'd love to see a study on that to test my hypothesis. It could explain some instances where drivers have lost control.
oh my... the flying nun on one side and dumbo on the other... lost control??? hypothesis... how bout somebody has way 2 much time on there hands... lord pass the mushrooms... kevbo
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Vintage awning

This is a photo of our vintage awning. We bought it inexpensively at an SOB Dealership "Garage Sale". We had to replace the spline and found the appropriate sized wire at the local hardware store, so that it would slide into the track and not pull out the side. An easy fix.
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I suppose you just might be pimping me kevbo, but one of our unit members had his 30' Airstream go airborne when he attempted to pass an eighteen wheeler loaded with hay bales. Witnesses told him that his Airstream simple lost contact with the road surface and was pushed off the highway. There are serious implications, but pooh-pooh on me for using my imagination.
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Speedie Awning?

I sure would like to clock Forrest setting up his awning in 45 to 60 seconds. I can't even unscrew the awning hold downs in that time. I guess with a little more practice, my wife will be able to time me with a stop watch instead of the sun dial we use now.

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Instead of the pressure flowing around the body, the awning tube creates a low pressure area on top. I'd love to see a study on that to test my hypothesis. It could explain some instances where drivers have lost control.

one of our unit members had his 30' Airstream go airborne when he attempted to pass an eighteen wheeler loaded with hay bales. Witnesses told him that his Airstream simple lost contact with the road surface and was pushed off the highway. There are serious implications.
this thread is perfect timing as i leave for a vintage rally this next tuesday in chama new mexico, about a two thousand mile round trip for me. i'll be careful to watch for low pressure surges around the zip dee awning tubes and loosing contact with the highway. you don't mention it, but did the fella with the flying 30' AS, always cruise down the hiway with his Zip Dee awnings deployed? or was he able to launch by the simple nascar backdraft / hay truck slingshot method? kevbo
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Old 06-09-2006, 02:07 PM   #42
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or was he able to launch by the simple nascar backdraft / hay truck slingshot method? kevbo
I think that in order to get fully airborne you have to turn your dump valve towards the rear of the trailer. Use a Pizo igniter with a loooong wire to your tow vehicle. Then just as you start lifting you click the Pizo which ignites the methane in your black water tank. Gives you the needed extra boost...

I'm just teasing Forrest
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