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Old 08-10-2008, 06:53 AM   #1
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Hello All, 1970 Tradewind awning question

Who else made awnings that came from the factory,or P.O installed,ours is not a zip-dee or an A and E so ,any help?Thanks !!
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Old 08-10-2008, 07:12 AM   #2
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Who else made awnings that came from the factory,or P.O installed,ours is not a zip-dee or an A and E so ,any help?Thanks !!
From 40 years ago, or so, there have been maybe 15 to 20 different awning manufacturers.

Airstream has not ever and never will, make awnings.

Post a couple of photo's of what you have, especially a good photo of one of the arms.

Many people on this Forums, could ID it for you.

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Old 08-10-2008, 07:49 AM   #3
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Thanks Andy,and fast too !! here are a few pics,hope this helps thanks again
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sorta kinda

The awning arm looks sorta kinda like the Carefree awning arm on our '74. At that time, Carefree was putting it's labels on the side of the awning arm down near the bottom where it mounts into the side of the trailer.

Our label is gone, but there is still a "ghost image" where you can just make out "Carefree" if you look really closely.

Is the mounting hardware installed with zinc plated lag screws? That was what the 70's Carefree instructions called for. I am in the process of replacing all those lag screws since the threads on a couple of them have pretty much rusted away.

Good luck with your search.
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Thanks Andy,and fast too !! here are a few pics,hope this helps thanks again
It looks like a Carefree. A photo of the bottom of the arms would confirm that.

We quit Carefree a number of years ago, even though I was a very good friend of the original owner, who was a fantastic individual, who marketed a darn good product and stood behind it to the nth degree.

I asked Carefree why their arms do not really match the contour of the trailer, or at least reasonably so.

The big boss back then was a female.

Her answer was that "Airstream never puts the awning rail in the correct place."

I told her that Airstream was in business long before 1969 which is when Carefree started.

She stated "Carefree was not responsible for Airstreams stupidity."

For what you get, the price of Carefree awning is way to high, in my opinion.

If you roll out the awning frequently, the fabric won't last 5 years, which is Carefree's warranty.

If you roll the awning out once a year or so, the fabric sticks together.

The silver portion of the material, separates from the colored material.

The contour of their arms do not come close to matching the contour of an Airstream, and that's not their fault!!!!! (They say.)

The Carefree fabric, is nothing more than a vinyl impregnated cotton.

If a dealer partially installs a Carefree awning, and finds out that it doesn't fit correctly, he owns it as Carefree will not take it back.

Their warranty people are "gifted" with answers as to why the problem is always the customers.

Many after market RV products, are quality and try hard.

We cannot say the same for Carefree.

If one of our customers insists on a Carefree, we will not sell it to them, but do suggest that they buy it some where else.

Being in California, we too can be held liable for a manufacturers short comings.

If a dealer has a tough time dealing with a manufacturer, guess what a customer must go through???? Utter nonsense!!!!!!!

There are other brands of awnings that are very good.

In our opinion, we place Zip Dee at the top of the list, for their quality and excellent customer service.

Zip Dee is a no nonsense company, from beginning to end.

Yes their prices are high, and so is the quality of their entire product line.

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looks like the one on my '70 Overlander but.... mine has a plant growing in it.
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yup... looked today.. it's a carefree..
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There is a thread called "Awning Operation", and in post #18 I provide links to a Carefree Awning manual in the forum. Hopefully that will be helpful, please let me know if you have any questions.

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