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Old 03-26-2013, 09:12 AM   #15
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I have been reluctant to disconnect the rear arm on my awning which is stuck because I didn't want it flailing around under the tension of the spring beating up my Airstream and possibly breaking my arm.
Then I read this comment on another thread:

"With the awning rolled up and locked in place with the wheel locks, you can remove the lower arms completely and the roller tube springs will not be in play. Take off the arms and the end rafters and see how much you have to play with. Also an opportune time to clean everything and lube with silicone spray."

I'd like to confim this with Zip Dee.

I can confirm that is what I did when I bent my arm and had to replace the lower rod and its corresponding tube.
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:56 AM   #16
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Posted by Skater:
That's good news if it's true, but I can't see how the tension would be off of it - as far as I'm aware, the lock just prevents the tube from spinning, and I expect the spring would still have at least some tension on it, so that arm is basically always being pushed toward the side of the trailer. I'd be happy to be wrong, though - an easier repair is good.

Are you planning to call them? If so, I'll wait to hear what you find out, rather than bugging them repeatedly with the same question.

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I just spoke with Linda at Zip Dee. She confirmed that if you have the head secured to the trailer with the wheel locks, you can safely remove the arms.
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I think posters are talking about the arm locks not the roller lock.
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Good to hear. Thanks, everyone! I'll still be careful when I remove that bottom bolt, but I'm sure I'll be able to tell pretty quickly whether the tension is still there.
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Old 03-26-2013, 04:44 PM   #19
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The wheel lock secures the end casting of the roller assembly to the body of the trailer.
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Old 03-26-2013, 06:05 PM   #20
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Yeah. Obviously I was thinking of the other lock that prevents the awning from rolling up or down... don't know what it's called.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:45 PM   #21
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The spring rolls the tube up to the rail on the trailer. When the awning is extended the spring is at maximum tension, when the awning is rolled up the spring is at minimum tension. The spring actually swings the arm away from the trailer in a counter-clockwise direction when looking from the rear of the trailer. The tension on the arm is not really that much when you hold it at the end. If you let it go the swinging 5' arm is what does the damage.

When you install the awning you extend the awning and while one person holds the end of the tube another person winds the spring using the arm as a lever. It is not difficult strength wise to wind the spring using the arm as the lever. It is more difficult holding the tube because is just kind of hanging out there with no support and trying to roll itself up. You are also trying to keep the fabric stretched so you don't hit the trailer with the arm while swinging the arm to tension the spring. Supporting the tube on a step ladder makes the job much easier. Also if you have the "Z" lock at the front of the awning it makes the job easier because you won't have to fight the tube rolling up while you wind the spring.

So to get to the question, yes leave the awning rolled up with the wheel locks secured and you can safely remove the lower section of the arm, what ZipDee calls the "hinge bar." Be careful that you do not move "main arm tube" because it is a long lever that can rip the wheel lock brackets out of the trailer. Have your helper stabilize the main arm tube while you remove the hinge bar. You can also remove the main arm tube from the main arm bar if you want to use the main arm tube for leverage to help straighten the hinge bar. You can check this PDF to verify the names that ZipDee uses to identify the various parts. http://awningsbyzipdee.com/media/19b...08ffffd523.pdf

I hope this helps answer some questions.
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The new arm came yesterday (thank you ODM!). I was surprised by how short it was - it apparently doesn't go very far into the larger part of the arm. I was expecting something 3' or 4' long, but instead it's maybe 2' long. I'm hoping I can replace it Sunday.
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The new arm came yesterday (thank you ODM!). I was surprised by how short it was - it apparently doesn't go very far into the larger part of the arm. I was expecting something 3' or 4' long, but instead it's maybe 2' long. I'm hoping I can replace it Sunday.

Doesn't sound right... Are you shure you recieved the main bar? Sounds more like you got a hinge bar.
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Doesn't sound right... Are you shure you recieved the main bar? Sounds more like you got a hinge bar.
Gulp. I used this page and picked the one that said Satin '94-'98 (I have a '95), which is the part number that is showing on my receipt. It's possible I got the wrong one - I did only take a quick look, and I haven't taken the old one out yet so I can't compare to that one.
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It's not very long. Bolts into the tube and is inserted about 1 foot at the most. It was the lower bar that bent on yours, right? Mine was the upper bar. But mine bent from pooling rain while the awning was deployed.

I think you're fine. It only goes up about an inch past that acorn nut in your pic in post #1.
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ZipDee has good youtube videos on their awning products from setting up, to fixing and maintenance.
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It's not very long. Bolts into the tube and is inserted about 1 foot at the most. It was the lower bar that bent on yours, right? Mine was the upper bar. But mine bent from pooling rain while the awning was deployed.

I think you're fine. It only goes up about an inch past that acorn nut in your pic in post #1.
I think you're right. For the record it's just over 25" long. Holding it up next to the camper, it stopped just below the acorn nut that's in front of the blue stripe in my picture, but one of the holes in the new hinge arm lined up perfectly with the horizontal bolt near the bottom of the main tube. (I compared it to both arms on the camper since the bent one is harder to compare.)

Also, I was struck by how much nicer the new arm looks compared to the rest of the awning that has been out in the weather for 18 years. Hopefully it'll quickly oxidize a little bit and blend in again.
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Rub a little automotive cleaner/wax on the rest of the pieces. They'll shine up a bit when some oxidation is removed.
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