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04-20-2016, 11:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,627
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AWCHIEF
A couple of weeks ago at the Florida State Rally we had a visit and seminar from a ZD tech. He was ask about tying down ZD awning. His answer left little mystery as to ZDs opinion on this. Answer, Do Not Ever Tie Down a ZD Awning.
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Hmmm. That's interesting. First time I've ever heard this. With all due respect, I'd question that "policy" ... I don't believe in permanent tie-downs, but they make sense in the short term.
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04-20-2016, 11:32 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods
, North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 3,120
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As a former sailor I am attuned to the wind and I do use tie downs because I can see that awning is protected from normal gusts. I believe the tie downs have allowed me to use the awning at times that I would have stowed it without tie downs.
But, I never leave the awning deployed when we leave the site or go to bed. I have seen ruined awnings and I do not want to see that on my trailer.
Larry
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04-20-2016, 01:56 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Awnings
Awnings today, are far from cheap.
If a sudden gust of wind hits an awning that's on a travel trailer or motorhome, it can not only damage the awning, but also the coach.
Zip Dee has a "center support" that's used on awnings 12 feet long or longer. It acts as a third arm if you wish, which adds much more "hold down" that helps guard against those sudden gusts.
Anything used to hold the awning in place, when wind gusts show up, is well worth the investment in whatever is used, along with the time.
Also, awnings have been known to cause damage not only to the coach it was mounted on, but some other coaches as well. Then the problem can become very serious because of liability.
The liability guilt becomes very easy, in spite of an "act of god", simply because no addition effort was made to at least try to protect the awning.
With law suits being as crazy many times as they are today, protecting one's awning from hurting someone else or their property, is a very good thing to do, just in case. It may never happen, but "peace of mind" has many good results.
Andy
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04-20-2016, 07:59 PM
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Rivet Master
2015 23' Flying Cloud
2023 Interstate 19
Scottsdale
, Arizona
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 567
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That was my original thinking.
Quote:
Originally Posted by lsbrodsky
As a former sailor I am attuned to the wind and I do use tie downs because I can see that awning is protected from normal gusts. I believe the tie downs have allowed me to use the awning at times that I would have stowed it without tie downs.
But, I never leave the awning deployed when we leave the site or go to bed. I have seen ruined awnings and I do not want to see that on my trailer.
Larry
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05-26-2017, 03:51 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 35
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Dirt and moisture on the awning
Hi guys. Because I parked seasonal under trees I'm getting a lot of pollen combined with moisture on the awning. So I tend to leave the awning out longer than I would normally because I'm concerned about rolling it up with all the dirt and moisture on the awning.
I have been trying to clean it but it's not easy.
So my question is is it OK to roll the awning up if it has some dirt and or if it's wet or is it best practice to clean it every time.
I know I've been taking some risks but I tend to leave my awning out with extra tiedowns and just check the wind forecast before hand before leaving. So far I've had no issues but I'm thinking this could lead to a future problem .
This is my first ever season and are now full timing in a 23D.
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05-26-2017, 04:12 PM
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Rivet Master
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Tampa
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 7,638
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If awnings were an option, I wouldn't order one.
I've never spent my days sitting under the awning.
I have rarely unfurled the ones I've had.
Many campgrounds have trees that prevent using them, or they have a shelter over the table, especially out west where the wind can come up suddenly.
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05-26-2017, 04:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1984 27' Airstream 270
Scotia
, New York
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,082
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I have a 27' MH, not a TT. For the insecure moment in my mind between mellow weather and the iffy kind, I use ratchet straps from the ends of the roller to the rear bumper and front wheel.
That gives me very good security for a wind from all directions except for downward.
When things are worse, I roll it up.
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07-07-2018, 12:11 PM
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#28
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Air Al
2010 25' FB International
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 16
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Wind Damage to Awning
Speaking of wind and awnings...a strong wind partially pulled away the lower awning bracket from the body of my 2010 25' FB. The bracket is held to the body by two screws and one rivet, and it is the rivet that has pulled away. Has anyone ever replaced one of these rivets with a Pop Rivet gun? Or should I play it safe and have somebody who knows what they're doing do it?
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07-07-2018, 01:31 PM
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Rivet Master
1971 25' Tradewind
1993 34' Excella
Currently Looking...
Estancia
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,742
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I had a similar problem. That may be a 3/16" diameter rivet. Added some epoxy behind the bracket.
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07-10-2018, 10:24 AM
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2 Rivet Member
2013 27' FB International
Casper
, Wyoming
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alreed
Speaking of wind and awnings...a strong wind partially pulled away the lower awning bracket from the body of my 2010 25' FB. The bracket is held to the body by two screws and one rivet, and it is the rivet that has pulled away. Has anyone ever replaced one of these rivets with a Pop Rivet gun? Or should I play it safe and have somebody who knows what they're doing do it?
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Did you ever get it fixed? This just happened to us. The arm on one side broke away and the lower rivet is pulled out on the other side, just like your picture.
Thank you for any info. you have on repair.
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07-11-2018, 09:02 AM
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Air Al
2010 25' FB International
Santa Fe
, New Mexico
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 16
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No, I haven't fixed it yet...I'm a bit leery of doing it myself--only one chance to do it right. But a 120 mile round trip (to get to the nearest Air-certified shop) for replacing one rivet doesn't make sense either!
Undecided..
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07-11-2018, 09:14 AM
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#32
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Rivet Master
2018 28' International
Fayetteville
, Georgia
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 826
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We retract the awning at night, if we are leaving the campground or if a storm is coming. I will leave the roadside canvas out unless it is storming.
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