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Old 06-22-2014, 11:44 AM   #1
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Awning in the way of the door

I'm still learning all of the nuances of the AS and the Zip Dee awning on my 2006 Safari. When I unroll the awning about halfway and secure the arms, it doesn't provide much shade but we're able to get in and out OK.

If I unroll the awning all the way, the entire side of the AS is shaded, even if we have to duck under the edge when we go out. The problem is that the door won't open but maybe a third, striking the awning. I can open the door first, close the screen, then deploy the awning and we can open the screen door a little more but not even halfway. I'm afraid we're going to tear the awning.

Am I doing something wrong or is this the way it's supposed to be?
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Old 06-22-2014, 11:59 AM   #2
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It sounds to me like you have not raised the awning up after you have unrolled it. There is a pin on each awning arm which you can pull, allowing the center tube to slide in the outer tube to raise either, or both ends high enough so the door clears the awning and you get more height. You can also slope the awning so rain pours off to one side or the other.

To let the awning down to roll it up, you will pull the same pin and allow the tubes to slide back into each other at the lowest position.
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Old 06-22-2014, 12:00 PM   #3
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Are you sure the awning arms are fully extended, all the way up?


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Old 06-22-2014, 12:00 PM   #4
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Awning must be raised up not part way. unrolled part way or fully must be raised to clear top of door also you can in stall roller on top of door as Zip-Dee recommends to to stop rubbing on fabric or tearing.
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Old 06-22-2014, 12:37 PM   #5
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This is what the awning door roller looks like from Zip Dee. This is intended to allow a door to gently roll under an awning that lightly scrapes the top of the door when opening. It is not intended to address the issue of a door being blocked by the awning at the 2/3 or 1/2 way open point. It sounds to me as someone has previously indicated that your awning is not being fully extended.
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Old 06-22-2014, 12:37 PM   #6
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Here is a video showing the proper way to open and close your awning:

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Old 06-22-2014, 01:24 PM   #7
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Ah! Thanks, everyone
I see what I was missing. I did everything the video shows except the last step where you push the awning out and up to extend those support arms. I was trying to pull/push on the arms themselves and could only get to the first position. Now I see that the way to do it is to push on the awning from the AS side while lifting it. That will raise the awning to its full height.

I knew I was missing something
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Old 06-22-2014, 01:41 PM   #8
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Huh, what do ya know? I learn something every time I come here.

I was making the awning deployment much more difficult than this.
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Old 06-22-2014, 03:14 PM   #9
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The roller is nice. I'm going to look into getting one. My PO made used a piece of plywood about 9x4 inches that had a piece of split rubber hose on it. He wedged it between the top of the door frame and the awning. It lifts the awning just enough so the door doesn't scrape.

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Old 06-22-2014, 04:35 PM   #10
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If you do not have lift handles on arms they really help also spray some silicone inside of arms will keep from binding raising or lowering
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Old 06-22-2014, 04:46 PM   #11
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Nothing unique about that wheel thing. It looks like a swivel caster wheel with the bearing part removed.

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Old 06-22-2014, 07:21 PM   #12
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Nothing unique about that wheel thing. It looks like a swivel caster wheel with the bearing part removed.

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The ones I have seen don't swivel, they are a fixed roller, but they do the job.

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I had a feeling you were not extending the awning all the way open. There are four holes/positions for the upper support arms, and if we don't go all the way to the fourth hole on the end where the door is, our door hits the awnging, too. We lower to rear arm to the 3rd hole if we need to create a rain run-off slope...
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The 'rafter' arm (upper arm, runs along the edge of the awning) has several slots or clicks. When I follow the instruction in the video I just let it click to the first one, but there are more. I don't know what they are for, maybe longer awnings.

The other arms (support arms?) are the ones I wasn't opening properly. I just pulled or pushed on them to the first click. Since it was pretty hard to move it I was afraid to force it. After watching the video I see that it's supposed to go up then out. Pushing the awing roll while pulling up on the support arm made it easy. I will also take Featherbedder's advice and use some dry spray silicone on the sliding areas to eliminate the sticking.

Now, with the awning deployed, the door doesn't even touch it.
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