Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-14-2006, 09:37 PM   #15
uwe's Avatar
1963 26' Overlander
1958 22' Flying Cloud
1963 19' Globetrotter
Portola Hills , California
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: 1963 26' Overlander
Posts: 4,764
Images: 41
Send a message via Skype™ to uwe
Originally Posted by Foiled Again
I thought it was super cool.

Advantages: nothing that could deploy while you're driving. Probably a "fold and toss in the door" as you leave the campground. If ripped by a storm, unlikely that the poles would damage the A/S. With the right fabric it could be a do it yourself project. This type awning would be good excellent to add a screen room onto. Also no awning arms to bump into.

Disadvantages: Probably would be a pain in the ass to put up without two people, would take longer to put up and take down. Need for soft ground to put stakes and guy wire holders in.

It's the pain in the rear part that made me think and buy a ZipDee. Vintage pole awnings are very nice, but labor intensive to put up and down.
I would have not used it once during my last 10 day trip, while I could have used the ZipDee every day.

uwe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2006, 09:49 PM   #16
Islay - 63 O.
dufferin's Avatar
1963 26' Overlander
Montreal , -
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 581
Images: 11
Send a message via MSN to dufferin
I was reading the thread, and I was sad to see the damages, and during that time I did not really noticed that it was rainnig like hell outside, I had to jumped out to put one side down,
that thread may have save my awning...

Canadian Atlantic Unit Past President
Protect your dream from others and first yourself...

Few rolling wheels to make our planet a house.

A 1/5th of her that I own.

TAC# : QC-1

my blog
dufferin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2006, 09:51 PM   #17
Site Team
azflycaster's Avatar
1975 25' Tradewind
Dewey , Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 12,037
Images: 62
Blog Entries: 1
I agree with Uwe as to the ease of deployment being a big factor in getting a Zipdee. The other is, in the mountains of Northern Arizona you would need Harry Stampler (Bruce Willis) and his crew from Armageddon to get the stakes in the ground.


WBCCI President 2016-2017
azflycaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2006, 10:01 PM   #18
Rivet Master
BIGED52's Avatar
1967 22' Safari
MILAN , Illinois
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,816
Originally Posted by JimGolden
Do you all have any recommendations for a suitable alternative to Zip Dee? My Excella needs a new awning, and they're $1400 as quoted me by Zip Dee.

I'd always heard Zip Dee was "The Cat's Meow" when it came to awnings. I don't know what else is out there.
Jim, My 1967 Safari has a factory installed Carefree of Colorado awning on it and the only real problem with this 39 year old awning is worn canvas and the two locking screw plastic knobs that are crumbling from UV exposure/time. I would think that since my local Airstream dealer sells Carefree that they probably still make one that can fit your coach. They sell online as well as from rv dealers. Hope this helps with your search for alternatives to ZipDee. Ed
1967 Safari Twin "Landshark" w/International trim package
1999 GMC Sierra 1500 SLT

"My tire was thumping, I thought it was flat!
When I looked at the tire... I noticed your CAT!"
Burma Shave
BIGED52 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-14-2006, 10:05 PM   #19
4 Rivet Member
AZstreamin's Avatar
2005 30' Safari
Chandler , Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 497
Images: 4
Sorry to see this to minnie's mate he had the same problem about a month ago with his new zipdee awning. That is a bummer you have me scared to leave my awning out at night now...I find the the Zipdee is hard to put away with several beers or wine in me before bed... Quick story that may or may not make you feel better but its a story... My business partner and his family have a holiday rambler its nice but it's no Airstream....anyhow his wife and kids spent most of July in Flagstaff so a couple of weeks ago we had business in Flag him and I went up to retrieve his trailer and bring it back to the heat of the valley.... His awning was having some trouble it rolled up but it seemed to have lost the spring action in it, so there was a little bit of lose canopy flopping after it was rolled up.. not much just about 5-6 inches so we locked it down and secured for the trip for the trip south bound on I-17.....about 20 miles south of flag I noticed in the mirror the awning was looking a little kite like so we pulled over at the next exit to secure it again...on down the road about another 5 miles a truck zooms up next to us in the left lane.... window down and they are screaming.... your nawnning..... WHAT?? .. Your nawning......WHAT I CAN'T HEAR YOU.... YOUR AWNING........I look….. Oh MY GOD.... Dude... your awning... its gone... ripped off clean all 21 feet of it! Poles flopping in the wind at 65 mph..... fortunately it didn't hit anybody or anything.. but... that little mishap will cost a couple of bucks to I guess it could be worse for what ever it’s worth....
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."- Mark Twain

AZstreamin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 06:38 AM   #20
Tramp Streamer
Commercial Member
ArtStream's Avatar
1995 28' Excella
Artist , at Large
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,002
Images: 65
Blog Entries: 1
AZ, so sorry to hear about your loss, and so young.
I never got over the loss of my first awning.

When I was cutting my teeth on my first RV, SOB 36 ft class A, I lost the 28 foot Carefree awning within 6 months. I never replaced it.

I have wondered about the practicality of an awning, , wind most often accompanies rain, so when you need the awning the most you wind up rolling it up in order to protect both it and the trailer (from the rocking, rolling, and stress on the trailer and the awning components.

While I have seen sun-bleached inexpensive awnings, unattended, and (per mentally) deployed, laden with hundreds of pounds of water, or buffeted by hurricane force winds and still standing, I fully realize that this is not my lot in life.

While I have Zip-Dee awnings all around my Excella, just installed a roadside, I do roll the curb-side up whenever I leave the rig, and do keep the rear end pitched.

I think of my awnings as heat controls for the Airstream, and a sun shade only. I have kept it down in the rain, while staked on occasions

It occurs to me that images of airstreams festooned with awnings full deployed is as idealistic as a little white bungalow, flower boxes overflowing with brightly colored blooms, surrounded by a neatly kept lawn and a cute little white picket fence.

Now excuse my while I roll up my awning.

ArtStream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 07:48 AM   #21
Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
Minnie's Mate's Avatar
2006 30' Safari
Orlando , Florida
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 4,693
Images: 7
Originally Posted by azflycaster
I woke up Saturday moring and found my awning arms had bent due to the downpour of rain we had that night. The foward arm has almost a 90 degree bend in it. I forgot to lower the one end to allow for the run off. Must of been having too much fun at the camp fire the night before. I rolled it up (with some help) and removed all the arms for travel. I'll give Zipdee a call today and see what they will do.
Man, I feel your pain. Like AZstreamin said, been there done that. I had the same problem and same bend with my rear awning arm when my '06 Safari was less than a month old although my rear awning arm was one notch below the front. Once it starts to bend, it goes to a 90 degree before it stops. We can have some fierce down pours in July thunderstorms in Atlanta. I didn't expect Zip-Dee to offer any compensation since no warranty covers acts of God or Nature.

Since then, I retract the awning when we leave the camp ground if there is any chance of rain or if we are in Florida. I don't bother locking it down, just rolling it up. I haven't bothered retracting it at night unless there is a chance of rain either. However, we were in central Florida over the 4th and I retracted it while we left for the afternoon. While we were gone there was a short Florida down pour. When we returned, there was a family trying to figure out what to do with the ripped awning on their Class A. It had ripped where the awning connects to the motorhome.

The guy I talked to at Zip-Dee was very cordial and very helpful. I also ordered a pair of the lift handles when I ordered the awning arm. I told him I was short for my age (5'-6") and had problems getting enough leverage to get the awning up to its top notches and he admitted that he had problems too and he was tall. Quite frankly, for $28 MSRP, Airstream ought to include them on all their trailers. I honestly can't imagine how seniors and free wheeler women manage these heavy awnings on the longer coaches.
2006 30' Safari - "Changes in Latitudes"
2008 F-250 Lariat Power Stroke Diesel Crew Cab SWB
Family of Disney Fanatics
WBCCI# 4821
Minnie's Mate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 08:16 AM   #22
Rivet Master
Chaplain Kent's Avatar
1994 30' Excella
Currently Looking...
Milwaukee , Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,890
Originally Posted by JimGolden
Do you all have any recommendations for a suitable alternative to Zip Dee? My Excella needs a new awning, and they're $1400 as quoted me by Zip Dee.

I'd always heard Zip Dee was "The Cat's Meow" when it came to awnings. I don't know what else is out there.
We had a Carefree on our Tradewind and experienced no problems. Chummy has an A&E which causes us nothing but problems. The fabric is original and looks great but I attribute that to it frequent inability to open. The springs arms, and anything else mechanical on the awning is just plain awful. A&E does replace the parts but it means camping without the awning and trips to the RV repair place to have it fixed. When I replace it I will do it a Zip Dee.
Chaplain Kent
1994 30' Excella 1000, Chummy III- Ford Excursion- 7.3 Turbo-diesel
Chaplain Kent is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 03:17 PM   #23
Round on both ends
SafeHarbor's Avatar
1979 31' Excella 500
1975 28' Argosy 28
Rutledge , Georgia
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 783
Images: 39
I had a very similar experience. The morning after I first installed my "Tropical Room" a thunderstorm came up and dumped a lot of water on the awning. Mine bent the front lower arm.

The lady at Zip Dee was very nice and had the parts coming to me that same day.

This experience gave me an appreciation of what the awning is and what it is not. What it is is an easy to deploy and retract sunshade. What it is not is an all-weather device. It's a very specialized device, and it's built only as heavy and sturdy as it needs to be for camping use.

The same attributes that make it pleasant to use in nice weather become a liability when the weather turns bad. Sure, it's lightweight and it's easy to use. It's also easy to retract if bad weather threatens.

I did a full jump-out-and-retract in a sudden thunderstorm two nights ago. One of my neighbors laughed, but he had his awning only one-third deployed. Another has his awning hanging from his fifth-wheel now.

Azflycaster, I don't think Zip Dee has any liability for this. Your awning is not the roof, or the porch, of a house, and nobody has ever claimed otherwise.

It took one for me to learn, too. If rain is coming, give the awning the most radical tilt that you can. If wind is present, too, get wet and put the awning up. Leave it unattended at your own peril.

1975 Argosy 28 "Argosy"
1979 Excella 500 31 "Betsy"
1992 Lincoln Mk 7 LSC
2003 Dodge 2500 Cummins "TowHog"
"Lucy Loosehair" the cat - Airstream mascot
Klaatu barada nikto
SafeHarbor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 03:55 PM   #24
2 Rivet Member
HHP's Avatar
2006 23' Safari SE
Yucca Valley , California
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 97
What about stuff like this to help with storms/wind? Do they work?
HHP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 07:07 PM   #25
Rivet Master
JimGolden's Avatar
Vintage Kin Owner
1977 31' Excella 500
Berkeley Springs , West Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,600
Images: 7
Ed, thanks. I'll look into those.

The folks I spoke to on the phone at ZipDee seemed really nice. Just an awful lot of money...IMHO anyway
- Jim
JimGolden is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 07:10 PM   #26
Rivet Master
Commercial Member
lewster's Avatar
Currently Looking...
Naples, FL , Hood River, OR
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 6,802
Originally Posted by 68 Overlander
Lew, that was humble and honest, good job. You can't speak for the manufacture so you offer alternatives. Good to see your eggs aren't all in one basket.
Unfortunately, the post that Randy mentions has been deleted from this thread by the 'powers that be' for the impression of 'soliciting business'. I considered it an offer of assistance in obtaining other brands of awnings..... just in case any of you were wondering what Randy was referring to. I don't desire to repeat the post!

On to the next topic!

FWIW, awning de-flappers will hold the fabric from 'flaping' when the wind direction is coming side-on. They do little of nothing to save the awning from excess wind loading nand breakage or damage. They just keep the fabric quiet. That's what I know.......make up your own mind about them.
Lew Farber...RVIA Certified Master Tech...ABYC Certified Master Marine Electrician
lewster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 09:17 PM   #27
. , .
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 8,812
hi azflycaster....

ouch that photo hurts....but it does show what happened.....

13 years ago i left my awning up level during a 5-6 inch downpour...
awakened to a crash thinking a tree limb had hit me...
tried to open the trailer door but could not...
awning roll had bent in the middle and collapsed against the door....
trapping me...and scared me senseful....

ended up buying another was my fault....

did you see this thread about my near miss last year?
big winds and the awning held fast....

also contacted customer support recently. i wonder if they are in some sort of transition....didn't seem nearly as sharp as past contacts...

best of luck with new struts...
might check ebay too....everything sometimes...

and i think zip dee owns sunbrella or is it carefree?

all of the true things that i am about to tell you are shameless lies. l.b.j.

we are here on earth to fart around. don't let anybody tell you any different. k.v.
2airishuman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-15-2006, 09:31 PM   #28
Rivet Master
guy99's Avatar
1984 31' Airstream310
Dunsmuir , California
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,336
Images: 16
Some months (a year?) back, ZipDee was purchased from family ownership by an internal group. Usually this means that the purchasing group had to take on debt to pay the former owners. So, often the new ownership is under financial pressure.

I sure hope it is temporary since ZipDee seemed to be one of a few small, quality companies which was doing well.

If you want others to be happy, practice compassion.
If you want to be happy, practice compassion - The Dalai Lama

1984 310 Limited Motorhome
Courtesy Parking (W/S/E/Wi-Fi) on I-5 in Northern California, 70 miles from Oregon border
guy99 is offline   Reply With Quote

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Zip Dee Awning 63 Safari Awnings 8 07-17-2006 06:49 PM
Awning Heads Up!!! JaceBeck 1999 Safari 39 04-25-2006 05:31 PM
'78 Sovereign Awning Joan D'Andrea Awnings 6 01-03-2006 07:34 AM
Awning gwrimmer General Motorhome Topics 1 11-07-2002 11:59 AM
Awning Repair cesurman Awnings 0 08-16-2002 11:57 AM

Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities

Copyright 2002-2015 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:36 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.