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10-12-2010, 12:14 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
1973 25' Tradewind
raynham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 69
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Polishing + Baking soda = SHAZAM!
I've stripped the clear coat off and got down to polishing but wasn't seeing the results I wanted to. I've read so many opinions on how to polish and thought I'd have it down by now. But I've been frustrated and overworked with the task. Last night I had a eureka moment when I was cleaning some jewelry with baking soda and thought why not?! I searched it and there had been a post somewhere saying it work well to neutralize the aluminium after stripping. I tried it this morning and BLAMO, it work great at evening the surface and removing small scratches. In the photo you can see the difference- The top is done with the baking soda 1.5 hrs and the bottom is 8 hrs of compound buffing.
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10-12-2010, 12:18 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1961 22' Safari
Fayetteville
, North Carolina
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 39
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Looks really good. How did you apply the baking soda, by hand or buffer?
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10-12-2010, 12:25 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
1973 25' Tradewind
raynham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 69
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I made a paste with 3 part baking soda- 1 part water and applying it on by hand using more force and baking soda on the scratches and dull areas. Then I went over it with an reg auto buffer but misted the now dry baking soda with water to even it out.
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10-12-2010, 12:54 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
1973 25' Tradewind
raynham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 69
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wish i knew how to edit to correct spelling in the post title.
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10-12-2010, 01:16 PM
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Patriotic
1973 23' Safari
North of Boston
, Massachusetts
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 4,546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deelind
wish i knew how to edit to correct spelling in the post title.
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you can't. But I can.
Now, bring the trailer to a neu rally, and show us in person.
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10-12-2010, 01:33 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
1973 25' Tradewind
raynham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 69
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Oh thanks, you're a gem! It'll be a while before this silver hits the pavement, but when it's ready, I'll be there! I've named it 'PlushOrama' and you won't be able to miss it
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10-12-2010, 04:03 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
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you will not like my honesty... I looked at that photo. Blew it up, and really studied it. The compounded part looks 8x better. Just being honest. Maybe if you spend 8 hours with the paste, it will look 8 times better than the compounded area. It might also turn out that the abrasive nature of the baking soda will never give you a mirror finish.
This is just my opinion. I am sure it will met with some displeasure. I apologize it it does. I am just trying to be honest with you. Polishing is not easy.
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10-12-2010, 04:13 PM
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Rivet Master
1965 22' Safari
Vassar
, Michigan
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Posts: 848
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I agree with 62overlander - The bottom compounded section is much better than the top. Now try a cyclo polisher with Nuvite S on both areas and compare the results. Just my thought....Tim
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10-12-2010, 06:33 PM
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Rivet Master
1970 27' Overlander
Espanola
, Full Timer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,753
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Yes the top is foggy and the bottom is looking correct. And I am not apologizing --it just looks better on the bottom. How bout posting some more pictures.
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10-12-2010, 07:22 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
1973 25' Tradewind
raynham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 69
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i hear you
I do intend on polishing, sorry, a wee bit misleading the way I've written the first post. This is to prep the aluminium so hopefully when I get down to polishing it'll actually look decent. I'm not happy with my work on the lower part, it's blotchy and cloudy, I should expect better results for the amount of time I slaved.
To be honest, I'm not so interested in getting a bitch'n mirror finish, I'd be happy with an all over, even, satin gloss.
I wouldn't post here if I didn't need/want honest opinions, so I'm grateful for the advice given. I need it. Total newbie, I've never even worked on cars (actually I did replace a radiator in my 240 z 25 yrs ago) I'm in way over my head and everyone around me thinks I'll fail so I have to prove them wrong So far so good. Thx again and I will continue to post my progress.
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10-12-2010, 07:28 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
1973 25' Tradewind
raynham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 69
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also, I was trying to find the link from a polishing company that I came across when searching "baking soda for polishing airstream' and they suggested to use the baking soda to neutralize the aluminum after using stripper solution. if I come across it again I'll post it here.
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10-12-2010, 07:30 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
1973 25' Tradewind
raynham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 69
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I am using the Nuvite system and advised technique as well as not polishing in direct sunlight.
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10-12-2010, 10:44 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by deelind
...Last night I had a eureka moment when I was cleaning some jewelry with baking soda and thought why not?! I searched it and there had been a post somewhere saying it work well to neutralize the aluminium after stripping...
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polishing jewelry with sodium bicarb is not wise, it will ABRADE the soft metals and stones.
DEtarnishing jewelry (especially silver) is a good thing,
but this is simply a chemical reaction that converts surface metal back to the UNtarnished state,
it's not a true cleaning unless a brush or u/s gizmo is used.
a water/bicarb solution with a bit of aluminum foil can be used as a DIP.
the tarnished silver will DEtarnish in the solution (and the aluminum foil will darken)
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IF an acid wash has been used on the stream a solution of bicarb/water can be used to neutralize the acid.
again it is simply a chemical reaction, no buffy/rubbing is required,
just wipe on rinse off (about 5-6 cups of water PER cup of bicarb)
using sodium bicarb to mechanically polish doesn't make much sense...
what "grit" is the bicarb?
there is an urban myth/internet viral post about some guy selling baking soda/water for polishing at 20$ a bottle in hiway rest stops...
the story includes a magical polishing demo and then the guy DRINKS some of the stuff to show it is 'safe'...
cheers
2air'
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10-13-2010, 06:11 AM
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Rivet Master
1970 27' Overlander
Espanola
, Full Timer
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,753
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You will be ok deelind...if you want opinions you will certainly get them here! Your 'Stream' is - or should be made out of (what they call) 'Alclad' type aluminum. And because of the ages of our Airstreams, we got lucky and fell into that group. Alclad is a much heavier application of the aluminum onto itself, making a thicker coating.
The newer Airstreams DO NOT have this. Ours and yours can produce a fantastic shine (almost like mercury) and you should enjoy the in's and out's of learning while you experiment with different things. And brother you are not alone when you say it wears you out polishing. But keep in mind it is a great upper body work out and you are going to bust muscles you never knew you had. I have my own formula way of polishing using kerosene and two other basic tools.
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10-14-2010, 03:17 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
1973 25' Tradewind
raynham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 69
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Here's some more photos and I'm putting together a blog to track the progress
Dream of an Airstream
In the first photo I hoping to capture the blotchiness in the lower segment, the rest is the baking soda. I'm hoping that I can get to a less blotchy finish by prepping it with the baking soda. To be honest, I like the satin look of the baking soda, but don't think I could work the troubled areas and keep the all over satin finish. I'll get back to polishing in the spring, just wanted to get it pretty enough to bring home and not have my snotty neighbors complain about it.
It's difficult to get a true read in an image with the airstreams, they always look so much better in photos.
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10-14-2010, 03:24 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1970 23' Safari
1973 25' Tradewind
raynham
, Massachusetts
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 69
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before and after
I've name the silver bullet Plush-O-Matic and will be taking it to art/craft shows. One of the types of things I'll be selling can be seen here-
PlushOMatic Buy Plush Boston Terriers & Octopus by deelind
"The act of making something provides tangible proof of the passage of time.When it's done well, it proves you're not wasting it."
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