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Old 04-20-2007, 01:51 PM   #15
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You may want to look at walbernize.com. The site lists the products and includes a price list.
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Old 04-20-2007, 03:13 PM   #16
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which one for my 89?

[B]Walbernize RV Super Seal Wax

Walbernize Cleaner and Glaze

I guess purchase thru AS Store is best option?

Thanx, Bill
hi bill

when you place the order just ask! the gals who run the store will know

my basic understanding is that BOTH are ok on '89 plasti-coat.

cleaner/glaze has more 'plasticizer' and was intended for the plasti-coat on pre '99 units like YOURS.

superseal is the newer product; can be applied to them all but was deveolped for the '99 (and on) CLEARCOATs pre-applied by alcoa.

cleaner/glaze is NOT to be used on the '99 and newer CLEARCOAT by alcoa.

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big disclaimer....
i'm not a fan of walbernize for my unit...
tired half a jug and the results didn't suit me...
owners manual indictates ANY quality auto wax for '99 and newer alcoa applied clearcoats...
so i use auto wax/polysealants.
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Old 04-20-2007, 04:18 PM   #17
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I have read this thread with interest as I want to give my 1982/3 310 MH a facelift. She is begining to look very tired and dirty. No end of washing doesnt seem to rid the "blemishes" that I assume are some form of oxidation, it just looks unkempt. I am not sure what the original finish is, but I believe from comments here in these pages it is some form of Plasticoat?

I managed to buy a Cyclo polisher through eBay from the USA, but find now I can't get the pads or info on what ones I need here, so I am in some limber.

Can any one, from experience, point me in the right direction. Many have recommended Walbernize but it is not available in the UK. I would like to buy some, and Cyclo padding to give it a whirl, and the ol' girl a new lease of life untill I can get the few scratches and imperfections sorted and then polish and recoat to that lovely satin ali finish.

It will be worth the extra shipping costs to have her looking good again.
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Old 04-20-2007, 05:49 PM   #18
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I have read this thread with interest as I want to give my 1982/3 310 MH a facelift. She is begining to look very tired and dirty. No end of washing doesnt seem to rid the "blemishes" that I assume are some form of oxidation, it just looks unkempt. I am not sure what the original finish is, but I believe from comments here in these pages it is some form of Plasticoat?

I managed to buy a Cyclo polisher through eBay from the USA, but find now I can't get the pads or info on what ones I need here, so I am in some limber.

Can any one, from experience, point me in the right direction. Many have recommended Walbernize but it is not available in the UK. I would like to buy some, and Cyclo padding to give it a whirl, and the ol' girl a new lease of life untill I can get the few scratches and imperfections sorted and then polish and recoat to that lovely satin ali finish.

It will be worth the extra shipping costs to have her looking good again.
Try this link for Cyclo products, they were the best price I found.

Cyclo Orbital Polisher - The Cyclo Dual Head Polisher

For those in the US, I was told that WalMart carrys Walbernize. I don't know that to be true.

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Old 04-28-2007, 09:13 PM   #19
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The Walbernizer product is made here in Indianapolis, just down the road from me. I have purchase the product for use on my 2006 AS. I washed one of my stone guards and used the walbernizer on a small area. I'm not to impressed, looked like it streaked and was hard to work with. I have several street rods with expensive custom paint jobs on them and I use "Mother's" products exclusively on them and am thinking about using their carmuba wax on a small area to see what happens. Has anyone tried this?
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Old 04-28-2007, 09:29 PM   #20
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Many of us have experienced Walbernize on stainless-steel.
It really streaks and is a PITA.
Try Walbernize on the aluminum and glass and it works pretty well.
Mother's should work well too.
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Old 04-28-2007, 10:37 PM   #21
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I washed one of my stone guards and used the walbernizer on a small area. I'm not to impressed, looked like it streaked and was hard to work with...

carmuba wax on a small area to see what happens. Has anyone tried this?
hi tsunami...

mothers does make good products and their waxes do work nicely on the clearcoated aluminum skin....

my primary complaint with mothers caranuba wax is durability....

it doesn't survive many washings or full time outdoor living....

and it takes a loooooong time to wax a 34....

the segment protectors are brushed stainless steel...

so virtually all wax products will streak and buff un-evenly...

some folks use stainless appliance sprays like zep and other companies offer...

these aerosols have a mineral oil base so using them will provide some shine and cut any road tar deposits...

but ANY topping on brushed stainless is problematic.

i've had the best results on the stainless segment protectors using solvents/cleaners only....

my favorite is 3m general purpose adhensive remover, product 08984...

this solvent works very well and removes wax, tar, silicone and greases...

don't forget to wash them with soap first.

once the stainless is clean, the shine is naturally great without any wax topping....

wear gloves and change rags frequently and ventilate well...

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For those in the US, I was told that WalMart carrys Walbernize. I don't know that to be true.

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Been to quite a few Wally Worlds and have never seen Walbernizer on their shelf.
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Old 04-29-2007, 03:02 PM   #23
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For those in the US, I was told that WalMart carrys Walbernize. I don't know that to be true.

Been to quite a few Wally Worlds and have never seen Walbernizer on their shelf.
The WalMart's in New England don't carry it. I had to purchase it at an RV store.
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Old 04-29-2007, 11:18 PM   #24
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In Australian Wal-Marts can you get Wallabernize?

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For those in the US, I was told that WalMart carrys Walbernize. I don't know that to be true.

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Been to quite a few Wally Worlds and have never seen Walbernizer on their shelf.
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Old 04-30-2007, 07:15 AM   #25
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In Australian Wal-Marts can you get Wallabernize?
Wombaterize; glaze/polish/ceiling wax/desert topping...

BTW, just received my Walb from Vintage, great service as usual...

Haven't started on the outside yet, but got a good start cleaning the inside this past weekend.

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Old 06-22-2007, 03:28 AM   #26
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Pat (starflyte1) --

Thanks for starting this thread…

Which elicited much good info and advice…

Which helped me with my first cleaning & waxing job,
Illustrated with photos, comments and links at:
http://www.airforums.com/forums/f396/silvergates-safari-home-last-29471-13.html
(starting with post #181 on page 13)

BTW, a belated Congratulations! On your new 2007 23’ Safari SE!

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Old 03-16-2008, 05:21 PM   #27
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Exclamation Walbernize Do's & Don'ts

Hey folks,

This is a great thread. A few years ago I was focused on the issue of which Walbernize we should be selling. We were selling both Walbernize Cleaner Polish & Glaze and Walbernize RV Superseal. Those are the two products Airstream was recommending at the time.

I tried to extract the reason from Airstream's technical folks about WHY they recommend Cleaner Polish & Glaze for older trailers and RV Super Seal for newer trailers, but no one could tell me why. I tried to ask a few different people at the factory over time but I never got much further than effectively "That's the way it is listed in the book."

I don't pretend to be an expert on plasticoats and Walbernize, so I asked two people I thought might have a better answer. First I spoke with the owner of ASTEC. They make Walbernize. I also spoke with Bill McIntyre (sp?) who developed the first few plasticoats for Airstream and who still recoats Airstreams in Oregon (at least he did when I spoke to him at the time). Bill's got some great stories of working as a lot boy in the 1950s at an Airstream dealer where the trailers would oxidize before they could sell them... but I digress...

Both my expert sources agreed that you should not use the old Walbernize Cleaner Polish & Glaze on plasticoated trailers of any year. It has an abrasive in it that is not appropriate for a plasticoated trailer. They both recommended Walbernize RV Super Seal for all Airstream plasticoats of all years.

As to whether Walberinze RV Super Seal is superior to other products on the market, I can't say. However, it is recommended by Airstream and it is super easy to use. You wipe it on with a clean cotton cloth by hand. Then use a car buffer, to buff it off. You can buff it off by hand, too, but it won't be quite as highly polished when you are finished. The important thing is to do something non-abrasive regulary to protect and preserve your plasticoat for as long as possible.

See you down the road!
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the info you have collected may be right for PRE 1999 plasticoat, plasti-kote trailers....

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...However, it is recommended by Airstream and it is super easy to use...
i don't care for any of the walb' products.

yes they go on/off easily but that's about it.

as an old trailer vendor i'd likely carry 2 of their products...

the superseal for older trailers..

and the permaguard for newer (99 up) units...

permaguard poop sheet...

while a/s may recommend the walb' products for older trailers,

they DO NOT for newer than 99.

the owners manuals specifically notes: "any quality auto wax"

and as far back as 2002 (here) the HEADDOG OF THE WARRANTY/CLAIMS DEPARTMENT has confirmed this...

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............"How do I clean the aluminum exterior of my Airstream?

For units with clear-coated aluminum we recommend washing the exterior about very 4 weeks or as needed. Wax with a non-abrasive mild wax in the spring and fall. Use a clean, soft cloth and always rub lightly with the grain of the aluminum. "...
the faq section at the a/s home site continues to make this 'any wax' recommendation...

now i've got 2 questions for YOU vintageRV...

-do you stock any version of the older plasticoat finish?

-and if so WHO MAKES IT?

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