when you place the order just ask! the gals who run the store will know
my basic understanding is that BOTH are ok on '89 plasti-coat.
cleaner/glaze has more 'plasticizer' and was intended for the plasti-coat on pre '99 units like YOURS.
superseal is the newer product; can be applied to them all but was deveolped for the '99 (and on) CLEARCOATs pre-applied by alcoa.
cleaner/glaze is NOT to be used on the '99 and newer CLEARCOAT by alcoa.
cheers
2air
big disclaimer....
i'm not a fan of walbernize for my unit...
tired half a jug and the results didn't suit me...
owners manual indictates ANY quality auto wax for '99 and newer alcoa applied clearcoats...
so i use auto wax/polysealants.
I have read this thread with interest as I want to give my 1982/3 310 MH a facelift. She is begining to look very tired and dirty. No end of washing doesnt seem to rid the "blemishes" that I assume are some form of oxidation, it just looks unkempt. I am not sure what the original finish is, but I believe from comments here in these pages it is some form of Plasticoat?
I managed to buy a Cyclo polisher through eBay from the USA, but find now I can't get the pads or info on what ones I need here, so I am in some limber.
Can any one, from experience, point me in the right direction. Many have recommended Walbernize but it is not available in the UK. I would like to buy some, and Cyclo padding to give it a whirl, and the ol' girl a new lease of life untill I can get the few scratches and imperfections sorted and then polish and recoat to that lovely satin ali finish.
It will be worth the extra shipping costs to have her looking good again.
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Don't take life so seriously.... it is not permanent!
I have read this thread with interest as I want to give my 1982/3 310 MH a facelift. She is begining to look very tired and dirty. No end of washing doesnt seem to rid the "blemishes" that I assume are some form of oxidation, it just looks unkempt. I am not sure what the original finish is, but I believe from comments here in these pages it is some form of Plasticoat?
I managed to buy a Cyclo polisher through eBay from the USA, but find now I can't get the pads or info on what ones I need here, so I am in some limber.
Can any one, from experience, point me in the right direction. Many have recommended Walbernize but it is not available in the UK. I would like to buy some, and Cyclo padding to give it a whirl, and the ol' girl a new lease of life untill I can get the few scratches and imperfections sorted and then polish and recoat to that lovely satin ali finish.
It will be worth the extra shipping costs to have her looking good again.
Try this link for Cyclo products, they were the best price I found.
The Walbernizer product is made here in Indianapolis, just down the road from me. I have purchase the product for use on my 2006 AS. I washed one of my stone guards and used the walbernizer on a small area. I'm not to impressed, looked like it streaked and was hard to work with. I have several street rods with expensive custom paint jobs on them and I use "Mother's" products exclusively on them and am thinking about using their carmuba wax on a small area to see what happens. Has anyone tried this?
Hey Starflte1, glad to have met you and Burt at the Springstream rally. Hope your trip home went well. Looking for the custom door handles or my rig. Drop me a line.
Many of us have experienced Walbernize on stainless-steel.
It really streaks and is a PITA.
Try Walbernize on the aluminum and glass and it works pretty well.
Mother's should work well too.
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This is a great thread. A few years ago I was focused on the issue of which Walbernize we should be selling. We were selling both Walbernize Cleaner Polish & Glaze and Walbernize RV Superseal. Those are the two products Airstream was recommending at the time.
I tried to extract the reason from Airstream's technical folks about WHY they recommend Cleaner Polish & Glaze for older trailers and RV Super Seal for newer trailers, but no one could tell me why. I tried to ask a few different people at the factory over time but I never got much further than effectively "That's the way it is listed in the book."
I don't pretend to be an expert on plasticoats and Walbernize, so I asked two people I thought might have a better answer. First I spoke with the owner of ASTEC. They make Walbernize. I also spoke with Bill McIntyre (sp?) who developed the first few plasticoats for Airstream and who still recoats Airstreams in Oregon (at least he did when I spoke to him at the time). Bill's got some great stories of working as a lot boy in the 1950s at an Airstream dealer where the trailers would oxidize before they could sell them... but I digress...
Both my expert sources agreed that you should not use the old Walbernize Cleaner Polish & Glaze on plasticoated trailers of any year. It has an abrasive in it that is not appropriate for a plasticoated trailer. They both recommended Walbernize RV Super Seal for all Airstream plasticoats of all years.
As to whether Walberinze RV Super Seal is superior to other products on the market, I can't say. However, it is recommended by Airstream and it is super easy to use. You wipe it on with a clean cotton cloth by hand. Then use a car buffer, to buff it off. You can buff it off by hand, too, but it won't be quite as highly polished when you are finished. The important thing is to do something non-abrasive regulary to protect and preserve your plasticoat for as long as possible.
while a/s may recommend the walb' products for older trailers,
they DO NOT for newer than 99.
the owners manuals specifically notes: "any quality auto wax"
and as far back as 2002 (here) the HEADDOG OF THE WARRANTY/CLAIMS DEPARTMENT has confirmed this...
Quote:
Originally Posted by JPAIRSTREAM
............"How do I clean the aluminum exterior of my Airstream?
For units with clear-coated aluminum we recommend washing the exterior about very 4 weeks or as needed. Wax with a non-abrasive mild wax in the spring and fall. Use a clean, soft cloth and always rub lightly with the grain of the aluminum. "...
the faq section at the a/s home site continues to make this 'any wax' recommendation...
now i've got 2 questions for YOU vintageRV...
-do you stock any version of the older plasticoat finish?
-and if so WHO MAKES IT?
cheers
2air'
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