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Old 01-04-2005, 06:53 PM   #15
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Wow have not ever heard of oxidiation return that fast - was it very shiney after application? Nuvite has kinda of a sealer so it should not due that.

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It was extremely shiny after application. I was amazed. The next morning, it was already dull and oxidised.
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It was extremely shiny after application. I was amazed. The next morning, it was already dull and oxidised.
What technique(s) did you use to get the area polished?
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What is there available to slow re-oxidation?
The 'old school' method was to use Glass Wax. Being that it's discontinued and not made any more, NuFinish car wax seems to be the new standard. When our supply of Glass Wax runs out, we will switch over to the NuFinish.

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Nuvite has kinda of a sealer so it should not due that.
It's my understanding that only the Nuvite 'S' has a wax in it, the 'S' is the final polish compound.

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I started using NuFinish on my trailer with great results so far. I got the idea from Herb Spies when I met him in Tahoe this past year.

In any event, it should not be dull overnight. I left my trailer unprotected for a year because I didn't know what to put on it and it did not dull.

Now when I did mine I compounded with a 1/2" drill and wool buffing pad. So I put some heavy duty horsepower into it.

However, on the roof where I could not reach I incorrectly just used the cyclo and it has dulled. I intend to do it again with a compounder if I can figure out a way to get up there ;-)

So, if the shinny spot was as a result of just some heavy duty hand rubbing with nuvite, then I don't think it would last. Getting dull overnight is still kind of a stretch.

In general if you want a longer lasting shine you have to put some hp into it!
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However, on the roof where I could not reach I incorrectly just used the cyclo and it has dulled. I intend to do it again with a compounder if I can figure out a way to get up there ;-)
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Check out the photos of Shari/Rob's polishing efforts on their 64GT..
Recall the clever two vans with the boards that they used??
I'd say that the EASIEST way to do it, safely~!!
I agree as well, no way any rig should oxide overnite..
(At least visible to the naked eye.)
With the exceptions of rain spots(these can be cleaned up), mine is still shinning well after a year of sitting at Va Beach, Va.
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I tried it again, and it is still overall shiny, only there are several vertical streaks that I need to buff out over and over, don't know what to do. Maybe I will have to find "nufinish".
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I tried it again, and it is still overall shiny, only there are several vertical streaks that I need to buff out over and over, don't know what to do. Maybe I will have to find "nufinish".
NuFinish is a protective wax-like coating, it won't polish the aluminum.

Which Nuvite grade have you used? How have you intially polished it? Using a compounder? A Cyclo Polisher? By hand? or ???

My guess is either:
1) You haven't cut through all the built-up oxidation to begin with
2) You may not be removing all the compound (Nuvite) after polishing
3) You may have burned through the Alclad layer if you've really over-compounded or buffed
4) The vertical 'stripes' are the hologram effect left after compounding before cyclo-polishing
5) Something non-aluminum is dripping or draining in the same spot which is staining the skin
With a bit more info, I think we can help you troubleshoot better. Got any pictures?

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I am currently using a high power electric buffer to do the polishing.
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Don't understand-

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All you could ever want to know about polishing...

Finally got started.
I read through most of that thread-ended up skipping around on it as its so long.

I'm trying to figure out how many hours you guys actually have in the job itself. By my count, it looks like well over 140+ hours using this system.

My trailer is smaller, which should take less, but also older, which may require more- and I'm interested in doing it quickly, if its possible to do so...

The cost I'm trying to estimate also seems high- about $500 for a Cyclo, and the various Nuvites. Isn't there a less expensive product that will do the job? Its roughly 9 times as much as Meguiars or Turtle Wax Compound- is there really THAT much of a difference?

Thanks for your help...
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I read through most of that thread-ended up skipping around on it as its so long.
You are so right. That tread needs its own site! ;-)

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I'm trying to figure out how many hours you guys actually have in the job itself. By my count, it looks like well over 140+ hours using this system.
If you include the stripping, compounding, and cycloing, that sounds about right. It is a very labor intense job. And slow just by the nature of the work.

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The cost I'm trying to estimate also seems high- about $500 for a Cyclo, and the various Nuvites. Isn't there a less expensive product that will do the job? Its roughly 9 times as much as Meguiars or Turtle Wax Compound- is there really THAT much of a difference?
I think I had about $600 in supplies and tools into mine. So at $500 your not too far off. It also depends on the condition of your trailer skin. I had a lot of corrision and it took a lot of work and polish to get it off.

The amount of time you spend also is determined by the amount of shine you want. If you just want a nice, even, moderate finish, that will take less time than a perfect mirror shine.

Many people have tried different techniques and polishes, but in my and many other's opinions, the polish jobs with the deepest mirror shine have been done with nuvite or rolite products. Nuvite has been said to be easier to work with and clean up.

Good luck and take and post lots of pictures!
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First- I won't be taking any pics until I decide what system to use, and at that many hours and that much money, I'm looking at what was suggested as acid washing that leaves the skin brighter and even but not shiny. That alone would be an improvement, because this baby is DULL!
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Acid washing is NOT recommended because of all the seams on an Airstream. The pressure used may compromise the sealant used in the seams and lead to potential leaks which can be very difficult to track down.

I would say $5-600 is a fair estimate for a do-it-yourself job, the pros charge $125-150 per lineal foot of your trailer. When you DIY, you can do it in chunks...you don't need all the materials at once. We compounded the in the spring with the 'C' Nuvite then Cyclo polished with the finer 'S' later in the year. That way the expense was spread over a year rather than all up front. The only hiccup was the swirls evident between Compounding and Cyclo polishing. Oh well...they're gone now!

If you are going to polish...it pays off in the long run, to do it right. Otherwise, you will have a splotchy dull/shiney finish rather than a consistantly dull trailer. I don't know which you would be more unhappy with...

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At what point do you strip off the original plasticoat? Has anyone tried POR-STRIP® - Remover / Stripper? The finish on my '75 is in good shape but not great. I'd hate to strip off the finish and get myself a huge undertaking needlessly??
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