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Old 10-24-2003, 10:25 PM   #309
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WELCOME~!!
What I've used is a product called "Mothers" phase 3. It's a special wax made from carnaubua..
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Carnauba wax is a resin produced by the wax palm tree Copernicia Cerifera. This tree grows in various parts of South America. However, only the trees in the Northeastern tropical rain forests of Brazil produce the premium quality wax used by MOTHERS®.
The reason I chosed this over all the others is:
It will seal the surface from the elements.
So far, I haven't seen anything to make me regret the use of it.
In fact, just a short time after I had applied it, we had a rain storm. When the unit had dried off..I went around with a soft cloth and, lightly wiped the water marks off..It was an easy job.
This was what I was looking for while I put off my polishing project until next Spring..
I just put it on lightly in a swirl rubbing pattern..let it dry to a haze and, wiped it off using a soft cloth..took abt 12 hours to do my entire unit..Why?, that's just me..I like to rub off any water marks before I apply the wax..etc
To remove it..(If you must) I'd use mineral spirit on a soft cloth.
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I'd even consider the use of an excellent quality cover for long term use..Not cheap but, well worth the investment.

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Got another 3.5 hours in today. For a grand total of 70.5
Ya da MAN~! Good for you..
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Old 10-25-2003, 08:37 PM   #310
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Nothing like the dazzle you have though
Thanks, I agree the guys have really put some serious "efforts" into their polishing project..
Altho,
I'm willing to bet that, you'll outshine all of us once you restart your polishing next Spring..
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Are you working by yourself on this project?
What sorta equipment are you using to compound with?
What condition was your unit's skin overall before you started?
Had it been polished prior?
Good luck to you~
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Old 10-25-2003, 08:49 PM   #311
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However, I have had literaly gone over every inch of the trailer at least 10 times because of severe filfrom corrosion. I actually stopped counting after 10 times and it was the same throughout.
Hey Tim,
Can you give us more information/pictures about this "filfrom corrosion".
Just wondering how deep did this go into the skin?? I thought I had some as well but, whatever it was I had on mine didn't require the intense compounding that you're up against.
I had this thought:
Maybe we could get "garry" to make a run over to that A/S graveyard in MO and, get each of us a small section of the alum. skin to sharpen our polishing skills over the winter month??
But, then...you don't have that problem living in mild CA, as you do..lol
I miss polishing...is this a withdrawal?? lmao

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I am embarrassed (because of all your hard work) to admit I did not do the polishing myself. The guy from whom I bought the trailer had partly started it - and I paid him to finish the rest. He did a pretty good job, the oxydation is gone and it no longer looks piebald. However rain drops are leaving their little tracks all over. It has a satisfactory polish but a few too many obvious swirls - in some places almost a mirror finish but no way good enough to put a sealer on it. So I am planning to wax it for the winter and then work on it in the Spring. I have been told on no account to cover it because covers leave marks on the aluminum. Have I been misinformed?
P.S. Where do you get Mother's
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Old 10-25-2003, 09:58 PM   #313
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Hello Rosemary;
No, you were not misinformed about the cover. If you go back thru this post you will see where a cover (talking about a cover that contacts the skin) did a job on the front curved panels on my A/S and I had to do a lot of sanding to clean it up before compounding.
I suggest you wax ASAP since the water spots are one of the hardest things to compound out. Any wax will do 53FC is happy with the Mother's wax and I have used plain ol Turtle wax with good results the important thing is to keep wax on it. You don't have to make a major production out of it. Just wipe it on, wait for it to haze over and wipe off. The wax does not add to the shine and can make it just a little less shiney but protects you from oxidizing.

Looking forward to your pictures.

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Old 10-25-2003, 10:36 PM   #314
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P.S. Where do you get Mother's?
Just about any good auto supply shop, like Pep Boys, Advance Auto, etc. I suppose even Wal Mart..

Thanks Garry, you've made a excellent point about your experience with the use of a cover..

Rosemary,
Plse, don't be embarrassed. It's what we're all here for..To help one another and, to share in this A/S experience..I can't think of a single person on this forum who didn't learn without asking questions. Including myself..For sure~!!
I have to laugh when I say this but, nearly 5 yrs ago when I first bought my A/S..I was totally out of my elements~I was very lucky to have a close friend who had owned several A/S for a mentor~!
I call upon him still today, even tho now he's no longer an A/S owner.
Whenever you're ready to start again to polish your unit, if you have question..ask..


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Old 10-25-2003, 11:51 PM   #315
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Hey Tim,
Can you give us more information/pictures about this "filfrom corrosion".
Just wondering how deep did this go into the skin?? I thought I had some as well but, whatever it was I had on mine didn't require the intense compounding that you're up against.
All I know is the FFC is some nasty stuff. If you look at my website or at some of my earlier photos, my trailer did not look too bad. In fact I was quite impressed with myself when I removed the weathered clearcoat last year never dreaming of polishing.

When I started taking the compounder to it though is when the FFC really started showing. After going over the skin once with the compounder and F7 or G6, the FFC showed up as white specs and trails. It took pass after pass of F7 literally over 10 times to get rid of it. G6 would *wear* out too quickly to tackle this one.

The white specs would slowly get less and less with each pass. This stuff is *VERY* hard. But repeated SLOW compounding did get rid of it. I do have some left in several places. Like where I started before I figured it out, or near the bottom edge where its hard to get the compounder. I'm just getting too lazy to go over it yet again

The repeated use of F7 did take its toll though. Normally you should be able to cyclo with F7 and then cyclo with S right after compounding with F7. My intense compounding left too many deep swirls in the skin. Now I have to compound with C once or probably twice to prep it for the cyclo with F7 then S.

The second tip here is when your doing your final compounding step, don't use very much pressure at all. At least not near what you used to get rid of the nasties.

The FFC was all over the sides, front and back. The top, where the clearcoat was long since gone, there was very little FFC. From what I understand is the FFC is created under the clearcoat where oxygen has gotten through the breakdown of the clearcoat. Since the top is subject to more intense weather, it did not have the opportunity to trap the nasties under the clearcoat.

Anyway that's my story and I'm sticking to it

Here is a picture of my FFC...
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Cool Here's some pics....

OK, here we go. Here are the very much anticipated photo's

A rear shot....
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Front center....

As you can see I still have the front to finish. Ran out of polish and will be running out of daylight because of the time change

Anyway, I'll can't wait to finish. I must be getting close since I bought a can of blue rustoleum to paint the lettering and pinstriping

This is what 70.5 hours gets you. So I think the 100 hour estimite is about right.
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Very interesting indeed and, I can feel the efforts you've put into it~
For references, even tho I had filforms as well, I believe mine were no where near as severe (from the photos you posted).

You are so correct when you say that, as you near the end, to use less pressure. It makes the world of differences as to the final result..Btw, you're doing an outstanding job..It would appear that you've hit upon the right combination..

Have you tried using Rolite compound ?? I have a pound and, couldn't resist the urge to try it on an upper panel. I was amazed to see that, it brought out a similar result as what you got on the rear of your unit. I followed it with Nuvite S with the cyclo..
There's several different combination of tech I'd like to try next Spring.
Thanks for sharing the pictures.
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Please "NO TOP SHOTS"
After next spring, show me yours and I'll show you mine hehehe

I know your A/S was in worse shape than mine. I wonder if it spent some time close to the coast and salt water got to it ?
On mine all the clear coat just above the windows was just gone but that area cleaned up fairly easy. What FFC I had (not much) was down low on the A/S. On the front it was worse and I finally decided on sanding it off. Just couldn't get the compound to take it off after 3/4 passes and had to move on due to time.

Looking real good I hope you have good weather on the week-end and finish up.
As Vern said after finishing up you have to go thru withdrawal

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