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Old 08-09-2012, 12:05 PM   #1
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After using the cyclo on a top panel, I discovered that the cord had caused many scratches on the panel below. I used the cylco with Nuvite grade c and then s to remove the scratches. Some cloudy spots appeared even though I did not spend extra time on any one spot. Is it possible to damage the alclad with the cyclo?
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Old 08-09-2012, 12:42 PM   #2
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It would be next to impossible to damage the alclad with the cyclo. I too learned the hard way about the cord rubbing on the lower panels. It is better to polish the top first and work down if you are doing a complete polish. I now drape the cord over my shoulder and down my back. Something I've been intending to try is to wrap the cord with cloth strip from a sheet say six inches wide and tied every ten inches or so with a small strip of cloth. You say you went back with C then S. Hopefully you won't have to go back to C but maybe A grade. Clean the surface after the A grade with paint thinner allow to dry completely then go back with the S but do not use thinner after the S buff (by hand) with clean microfiber cloth. It's very possible that the cloudy spots are just residue from the coarser grades
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:32 PM   #3
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Thanks for your quick reply! I did wrap my cord as soon as I discovered the problem. Seems to be working better. I too thought the cloudy spots might be residue from compound. I've tried everything I can think of from mineral spirits to hand polishing to microcloth. They don't seem to budge. I'm kind of afraid that I may make them worse. Any other suggestions?
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The cloudy spots are most likely caused by the clear coat, that was on your trailer, failing over the years. As it thins out and comes off it exposes the skin to more elements while where it is still holding strong gets less exposure. Keep going, it will get better. I think it is impossible to damage the skin using a cyclo. I am a firm believer in the foam pads made by cyclo. I use yellow followed by green, then blue. Instead of the different grit polishes, I use the pad to go finer and finer.
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....I use yellow followed by green, then blue. Instead of the different grit polishes, I use the pad to go finer and finer.
Hi Overlander.
Just wondering if you keep the grade and use just the pads to go finer and finer? If so wat grade do u use?
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I hesitate ever so slightly because there will be a bunch of arm chair professionals telling me I am doing it all wrong even though I do it 60 hours a week...

First the secret to polishing is finding what works for you. There are a myriad of techniques and materials out there. What I do might not work well for you but might work for others. By the time you are done, you will have a great system for yourself...
The process we use in my shop is this; We strip the trailer. Next we flash it with a acid treatment( I am sure to hear some grief about admitting that, but MANY restoration shops do and VIRTUALLY all truck polishers do). Next we neutralize it with a baking soda/ water solution. The next step is to go over it with 2 x 10 cotton wheel on edge using grey rogue bars followed by red. I purchased the "airstream kit" by Jestco.
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At this point the trailer is fairy polished up but has many vertical lines from the wheel. We then switch to the cyclo polisher using the yellow, green, then blue.
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The polish we use at this step is Diamond Brite. You cannot polish an Airstream with just a cyclo. You can touch it up and maintain it with one, but you will need to be more aggressive for the first part.
Between all steps great effort is taken to remove all black residues. I used to use mineral spirits, but have just switched to elbow grease and a clean cotton rag for that. Polishing is VERY labor intensive. It is also filthy work.
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Thanks for your input, Frank. These are definetly not clear coat spots. I am on the final polishing stage and am using Nuvite S. I have used the grey and red bars from Jasco as you mentioned and these spots are just showing up with the cyclo.
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Sorry to hijack but Frank what is "flash acid treatment" and what does it do? What do you strip the clear coat with?
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I have experienced clouding when doing touch ups with the cyclo and nuvite as well. It only happens when the surface of the trailer is too hot or in direct sunlight. Since I live in Phoenix, that means no summer polishing. It was 90 degrees at 6am and headed into the 116 degree range today (again).
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This could definitely be my problem. It was in the 90s here yesterday. Did you solve the problem or do you still have the spots?
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It was 116 here today. The spots I have will be here for a while...
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The best way I have found to get the clouds out is to re-compound the area with the Dewalt side grinder and Nuvite C then switch back the the Cyclo with C then S. Works every time for me.
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62 Overlander, you are absolutlely right. When it comes to polishing airstreams they can be very fickle. They can be a lot like wives. I'm polishing my second trailer now and learning something new almost daily. As you stated it comes down to what works for you
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Old 08-11-2012, 07:54 PM   #14
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good advice

Thanks for the tip about using Nuvite C. I will try that when it cools off a bit. So... here's another question. I completely finished polishing with the Cyco and Nuvite S (after grey bar and then Nuvite C). It is definitely shinier now from a distance and really close, but in certain lights and angles it looks splotchy. It almost looks like it has compound left on it, but I cycloed with a clean rag and then a microfiber cloth. It should be clean. Could this also be caused by the heat? DO I have to redo C and S over the whole 27 ft again?(doubtful)
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