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Old 07-10-2011, 07:55 PM   #1
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Cutting oxidation PRIOR to polishing??

I've been searching the Cleaning, Stripping & Polishing forum for an hour and can't find what I'm looking for... am I search challenged?

Is there a product/cleaner that can be used on the exterior skins prior to polishing? The goal of this product would be to have it do an initial "cut" of the corrosion. It seems there should be... Spray/wipe on, rinse or wipe off? We're starting to polish our 1959 and wondering if there is something out there. So far, Mike is using 2 polishers, gray bars and I think Mothers. (He's doing the initial cutting, I'm removing old sealer so we can make it leak proof.) We knew it was going to be labor intensive, but I think it's more than our largest estimations. There is still lots to be done, this is just the inital "cut" Mike tells me.

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Old 07-10-2011, 08:21 PM   #2
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Are you removing the anodized finish off the Avion?
It was my understanding that they were anodized in order to eliminate the maintenance needed for a standard aluminum sheathed trailer.
Here's a thread concerning a similar question about a Silver Streak.http://www.airforums.com/forums/f441...eak-38863.html
Looks like you've already cut through the finish so I'd guess your commited to seeing it through to the end.

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Old 07-10-2011, 08:27 PM   #3
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Hi Tom,

No, our trailer is not anodized (Avions were anodized starting in '63-'64.) We're trying to "easily" remove some of the corrosion instead of all the passes with the polisher.

Thanks - good thought!

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Old 07-10-2011, 08:35 PM   #4
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Just saw your other tread. What a great find.

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Old 07-10-2011, 08:55 PM   #5
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For the first cut I have used Liquid Gravel,and Nuvite # 9,both are good for the beginning cut. Dave
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The Grey bars and the 3M are perfect....then to red bar (rouge) or Nuvite or Met-al. Its the polisher/wheel that now will make the difference. I highly recommend the wheel instead of the buffer type. Then finish it with the Cyclo. (Can even get a nice finish with doubled up cotton wheels.)
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What RPM / Wheel with the 3m?
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The Grey bars and the 3M are perfect....then to red bar (rouge) or Nuvite or Met-al. Its the polisher/wheel that now will make the difference. I highly recommend the wheel instead of the buffer type. Then finish it with the Cyclo. (Can even get a nice finish with doubled up cotton wheels.)

We have been looking into a Drum Style Polisher. Streamquest put us on that track. It looks like it will be worth the investment, says Mike. I will tell Mike about the wheel style too, but I'm usually a day late... The buffer style definitely will make one "buffer."

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Hi Tina,

Funny running into you again on the forums. I see that you've been following the latest installment of the search for the "mystery trailer".

On the way home I stopped at Dan Piper's place (Vintage Campers) up in Peru, Indiana and picked up a product called "Streak Master Aluminum Brightener".
It is supposed to do exactly what you and I have in mind for it. I haven't tried it yet, but Dan seemed to be pretty hot on the stuff. I did see a couple of trailers that had been washed with it, and they looked pretty good. He cautioned me to wash from the bottom up, and to rinse THOROUGHLY.

There is still one Drum Polisher for sale on ebay (item number 120670902342) in case you're interested in pursuing it.

Best regards to you and Mike.

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I used the regular red compound on the upper parts where the clear coat was rotted away from UV leaving corrosion.

I did it with a std 8" wheel.

It was quick and when polishing it all blended in fine.
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On the way home I stopped at Dan Piper's place (Vintage Campers) up in Peru, Indiana and picked up a product called "Streak Master Aluminum Brightener".
It is supposed to do exactly what you and I have in mind for it. I haven't tried it yet, but Dan seemed to be pretty hot on the stuff. I did see a couple of trailers that had been washed with it, and they looked pretty good. He cautioned me to wash from the bottom up, and to rinse THOROUGHLY.

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Thanks Charly,

I had an order into Vintage on Friday, so I sent another one today for the Streak Master, we'll give the stuff a try. Mike is also researching a Drum Polisher that is electric. That may be a bit more useful to us instead of having to rent the big air compressor. Don't know if it works as well, we'll see if we can find some reviews.

Thanks again!

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The Grey bars and the 3M are perfect....then to red bar (rouge) or Nuvite or Met-al. Its the polisher/wheel that now will make the difference. I highly recommend the wheel instead of the buffer type. Then finish it with the Cyclo. (Can even get a nice finish with doubled up cotton wheels.)
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Where have you found the best place to get the "wheels" for the wheel type polisher? We still haven't invested in a drum polisher, and currently using small wheels, can't find larger ones locally and wanted your advice on where to get them.

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On the way home I stopped at Dan Piper's place (Vintage Campers) up in Peru, Indiana and picked up a product called "Streak Master Aluminum Brightener".
It is supposed to do exactly what you and I have in mind for it. I haven't tried it yet, but Dan seemed to be pretty hot on the stuff. I did see a couple of trailers that had been washed with it, and they looked pretty good. He cautioned me to wash from the bottom up, and to rinse THOROUGHLY.
Charly,

We ordered this product from Vintage Campers after your post and washed the trailer over the weekend. It made a noticable difference. Since Mike's doing most all the "cutting" work, I've been quizzing him on it, and he said it definitely helped. It's not a spray on rinse off "miracle shine", but it's good prior to the first cut. Yes, we would definitely use this product again.

We haven't yet invested in a drum polisher. The electric one has not so good reviews and we're keeping on with the wheel style for now, but we need to get some bigger pads .

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Old 07-20-2011, 05:48 PM   #14
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The product you are talking about is sold under many trade names. Truck Brite Wash, Aluma Brite, Tank Brite, Tanker Wash (I buy it at Fleet Services or Freight Liner here in Baltimore)... It is an acid. You dilute it 6 oz to a gallon and apply it. It "flashes" the surface. It cuts the first cut by 80%. If used between each step it will rapidly speed up the entire process. FLUSH WELL!!!

Diluted 3oz to one gallon sprayed over the entire polished surface, will give that soft vintage look.
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