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Old 09-22-2003, 12:49 PM   #29
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How about a source for the Napier SV35? Where did you get it?
Don:

Try this:

Napier Environmental Customer Service
Terry Jackson
800-663-9274 Ext. 2412
terryj@napiere.com (not a typo)

I just got an e-mail back within 2 hours requesting a MSDS for Napier RemovAll 210 paint stripper. Others have used this product with good results, so thought I'd look into it. Health hazards look acceptable and protective equipment is just common sense stuff (no moon suit or SCBA).

I'm awaiting a reply to a second e-mail requesting a list of suppliers in Central NY. I'll post the information when it arrives, hopefully they distribute thru a national chain such as Home Depot, et al.

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Old 09-22-2003, 01:03 PM   #30
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I'm sure my poor liver is still working overtime
Don:

Be aware of the delayed effects and symptoms of exposure to Methylene Chloride as posted by DPeakMD earlier in this thread.

Now, go have a couple of beers and flush that stuff out of your system

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P.S. Anybody know what the chemical reaction between Methylene Chloride (CH2Cl2) and Ethyl Alcohol (CH3CH2OH) would be in Don's poor liver?
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Old 09-22-2003, 01:16 PM   #31
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jrboyd says: "...poor liver is still working overtime (and not being paid time-and-a-half anymore for it, either!) to get rid of it before I start to grow another leg out of my forehead."

Just curious--how many legs growing from your forehead now!!!



Seriously: I am ready to invest in some stripper, but am only going to start on a small panel--do you think that will be a problem? I'm just wondering if you can do it piecemeal like that without the underpart corroding or something until it is finished. My trailer is very long!!! (And I may be a bit inefficient at first)
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Old 09-22-2003, 02:31 PM   #32
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Originally posted by Barbara L.

Just curious--how many legs growing from your forehead now!!!

Poor Don

I am ready to invest in some stripper

Barbara, which stripper did you decide to use?

wondering if you can do it piecemeal like that without the underpart corroding or something until it is finished

Dunno, now let's see; that chemical reaction would be Aluminum (Al) plus Water (H2O) plus Air -- Oh, forget it.

My trailer is very long!!! (And I may be a bit inefficient at first)

My motorhome is LONGER! It only took me a month to do the front end

I've got way too much time on my hands today, it's raining and can't get anything done outside. Guess I'll go mess around with something inside.

Have a nice day and Practice Safe Stripping

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P.S. Guess what I learned to use at the Forum today

Uh-oh, gotta go, the warden is coming. NO, I haven't been drinking - it's the fumes from the paint stripper!
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Old 09-22-2003, 02:49 PM   #33
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I am going to try a small container of the Back to Nature Multi-Strip, as it seems to be readily available at many of the hardware stores around where I live, and I like the idea of its "nontoxicity"-- well, I'm not going to eat it or anything! I think I'll apply it to a small area, go inside the trailer and work on the water pipes which we are replacing, maybe tear up the carpet (I found YELLOW shag carpeting underneath the carpeting that is in there now, and I think that's why it smells so musty). I believe in starting three projects at once rather than tackling one at a time--then I never get bored.
After a couple of hours working on the inside, I'll go back out and see if the patchy clearcoat is coming off, and then go from there!
Does that sound realistic?
Eventually I'd like to put in the cork flooring (only that's for another topic!!)
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Old 09-22-2003, 03:26 PM   #34
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drboyd says: "...poor liver is still working overtime (and not being paid time-and-a-half anymore for it, either!) to get rid of it before I start to grow another leg out of my forehead."
Just curious--how many legs growing from your forehead now!!!
Well, let's just say it's getting much easier to kick myself in the head!

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Seriously: I am ready to invest in some stripper....
...and if you really are getting ready to invest in a stripper, you might check with your husband first...

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Old 09-22-2003, 03:38 PM   #35
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Originally posted by Barbara L.

I am going to try a small container of the Back to Nature Multi-Strip

Worked for me, see my previous post for further info.

I like the idea of its "nontoxicity"-- well, I'm not going to eat it or anything!

Our puppy took a lick out of the container, called the vet and he said to pack her full of bread and water. She's still with us, but now staked out on a leash away from the work area. Needless to say, I felt terrible.

I found YELLOW shag carpeting underneath the carpeting that is in there now

Oh yeh, it used to look great in the 70's with Coppertone appliances, but now I'm dating myself.

I believe in starting three projects at once rather than tackling one at a time--then I never get bored.

Right on!

After a couple of hours working on the inside, I'll go back out and see if the patchy clearcoat is coming off, and then go from there!
Does that sound realistic?

Sounds like a plan.

Please get back to us with your results and any little tricks you may learn.


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I had to do that again, can't help myself, it's just so
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Old 09-22-2003, 03:48 PM   #36
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It's amazing how some products work great for some, and not so well for others.

I have found Citri-Strip to be an excellent product for stripping clear coat. Doesn't work worth a flip for removing paint, decals, or glue, though.

I paint the Citristrip (no methyl chloride) on fairly heavy with a brush, let it work for 20 - 30 minutes (doesn't run too bad), and scrape off the clearcoat and excess Citristrip with a plastic scraper into a disposable tub (I use Cottage Cheese containers). The small amount of residual left on the side skins is easily washed off with a water hose. All of the paper towels and disposable tubs go into a plastic sack with the trash. Not too nasty to work with.

Citristrip is available at your friendly orange Home Depot in the paint department.

The only protection I use (besides goggles) is a good pair of latex gloves. Citristrip is thick enough that it does not tend to spatter.

I'm still perfecting the shining process, though. My technique is no where close to where it needs to be. I tried SS with varying degrees of success, likewise various compounding mixtures (including Nuvite).

Some areas seem to shine out with a small amount of effort, while others defy my most valiant efforts.

Pics to follow.
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Old 09-22-2003, 04:04 PM   #37
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Well, let's just say it's getting much easier to kick myself in the head!



...and if you really are getting ready to invest in a stripper, you might check with your husband first...

Don
Don:

Good ones! I take it you followed my advice and had a couple of cold ones to cleanse the body. Are you feeling dizzy and nauseous yet?

How do you do that multiple "quote" thing in a reply? It would save a lot of color ink.

I haven't accomplished a thing on the Airstream today (wait till the "Warden" finds out), but am sure getting computer literate.

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Old 09-22-2003, 04:45 PM   #38
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The multiple quote thing...

...and the cold ones:

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Good ones! I take it you followed my advice and had a couple of cold ones to cleanse the body. Are you feeling dizzy and nauseous yet?
Yes, but that may be just too many of those cold ones...

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How do you do that multiple "quote" thing in a reply? It would save a lot of color ink.
Just go thru the same process again...

Select and highlight the passage
Hold Control and press "C"
Click on "Quote" button
Control + V

...or you can just copy the html tags, and put the "boxed QUOTE" and the "slash boxed QUOTE" after it.... I can't copy them without making it happen, but if you watch your message text, you'll see what it's doing... Just preview your message to see if you have it right...

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Old 09-22-2003, 07:48 PM   #39
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...and the cold ones:


Select and highlight the passage
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...or you can just copy the html tags, and put the "boxed QUOTE" and the "slash boxed QUOTE" after it.... Don
Ah, like this, thanks.

Well it's been a great educational day, but just got busted by "the Warden" (a.k.a. The Wife) for my performance (or lack thereof) on the Airstream.

As a result, I had to cook (microwave) my own dinner - a sumptious beef stew packed with 230 calories and 6 grams of fat. In my frenzy to get at this delicacy, I rip open the package (before reading the directions - it's a manly thing to do, right?) only to discover it's the cooking container.

Now, answer me this Don (hello, are you still there) because you are obviously a man of great knowledge. Here's the directions on top of the box - what would you do?:

1. Remove circle. (What circle?)
2. Remove bowl. (Already exposed) Reclose side panel (Previously ripped off)
3. Place bowl in holder (After removing from trash - yech) Don't vent or pierce film (Any gourmet chef knows that)
4. Microwave on high for 3-1/2 minutes (This must contain a BIG chunk of beef)
5. Pull back film, stir, recover (How do you stir when it's still frozen?) Cook on HIGH for an additional 1 to 1-1/2 minutes (Capital HIGH this time, OK crank it up and double the time)
6. COMPLETE COOKING DIRECTIONS ON BOTTOM OF CARTON (Too late, bowl explodes in microwave, Warden bans me from kitchen)

So I head off to "my hole" with remains of package in hand. Now I'm studying the ingredients to see if this would make a good paint stripper for the Airstream, since I haven't done anything else today. First (and major ingredient) is water - that's good. But what's this? - maltodextrin, sodium phosphate, tricalcium phosphate, silicon dioxide, mono and diglycerides, bha and bht, monosodium glumate, citric acid, disodium guanylate, thiamine hydrochloride AND chicken fat ("Where's the Beef"?).

I'm sure not putting this on the Airstream (or in my body) until I get a Material Safety Data Sheet! You guessed it - I'm an Engineer.

Learned a lot (thanks to you good people) and had a lot of fun today. Weather forecast is good for tomorrow, so gotta get back to work. Hope to chat with you again, soon.

Regards,
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Moderator: Please feel to place this drivel elsewhere or simply delete it - I'm way out of line and off topic here.
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Don:

Try this:

Napier Environmental Customer Service
Terry Jackson
800-663-9274 Ext. 2412
terryj@napiere.com (not a typo)

Don:

Here's "the rest of the story". I spent a fair amount of time on the phone today (and working on the Airstream), rather than goofing off on the Forum.

I'm going to start a new thread titled "Napier Products" as this one is getting so long (39 posts) including my off-topic gibberish. I've gathered a lot of new technical info on the products and several excellent contacts (phone, e-mail and web sites).

But first, since you are the Computer Guru, please advise me how to carry a link to this thread to the new one. There has certainly been a lot of good info here which could be of value to someone new to the subject in the future.

I await your reply.

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Now, answer me this Don (hello, are you still there) because you are obviously a man of great knowledge. Here's the directions on top of the box - what would you do?:

<snip>

I'm sure not putting this on the Airstream (or in my body) until I get a Material Safety Data Sheet! You guessed it - I'm an Engineer.
Well, Jeff, I'm not sure our answers about the beef stuff would be all that different; I'm an engineer, too!

Mechanical, if that matters....

I'm thinking your research on Napier is a Very Good Thing! Thank You! I'm planning to score some of the private label stuff, but it's like $44 a gallon around here. Is the Genuine Napier less expensive?

(I'll call tomorrow; I was up at a power plant all day today)

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I'm an engineer, too! Mechanical, if that matters....
Yep, same sub-species.

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I was up at a power plant all day today
Hydro, fossil, nuke or new tech?

Look at me "multiple quote", thanks, you're the Man.

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P.S. Got a lot done today, Warden gave me a reprieve.

P.P.S. How do you <snip> ?
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