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09-21-2009, 11:16 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
1953 17' Clipper
Mendon
, Vermont
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 396
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Anyone Ever Start a Fire?????
Anyone ever start a fire from the sun reflecting off their trailer???
Last week when I was kneeling to polish, I felt burning on the back of my calf. It felt like I was touching a hot burner. Then, about an hour later, I smelled grass burning, and noticed a strip of bright light across the grass. I wet it down, and figured I'd keep a closer watch on things.
This morning, I parked my trailer, and was starting to clean it out, went in the house for about 45 minutes, and came out and found a kneeling pad next to the trailer that had become totally charred, and luckily didn't ignite.
What do you all do to protect from fire???
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09-21-2009, 11:29 AM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,280
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Is the area focusing sunlight concave in shape? I'll start the chant, "Show us pictures!"
InsideOut posted once about seeing the polished inside of a door concentrate the sun when it was open.
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09-21-2009, 11:45 AM
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Rivet Master
1970 23' Safari
2005 30' Classic
1986 31' Sovereign
Lorain
, Ohio
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,645
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Doug at the Wilds rally this weekend scorched the grass with his polished open door. I'm sure it could ignite.
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09-21-2009, 12:06 PM
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#4
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4 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
1953 17' Clipper
Mendon
, Vermont
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 396
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanoeStream
Is the area focusing sunlight concave in shape? I'll start the chant, "Show us pictures!"
InsideOut posted once about seeing the polished inside of a door concentrate the sun when it was open.
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It was definately the inside of my door which was causing it, and, yes it IS polished. It seemed to be coming from the bottom edge of the door.
And, yup, I need to figure out how to post pics. I'll see if I can re-create the situation on the next sunny morning. I closed the door as soon as I realized, and now the trailer is in partial shade.
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09-21-2009, 12:08 PM
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#5
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Webster Groves
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pinktrailer
It was definately the inside of my door which was causing it, and, yes it IS polished. It seemed to be coming from the bottom edge of the door.
And, yup, I need to figure out how to post pics. I'll see if I can re-create the situation on the next sunny morning. I closed the door as soon as I realized, and now the trailer is in partial shade.
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This is so cool! Your built in solar oven!
Bob
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09-21-2009, 12:19 PM
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Rivet Master
2000 31' Land Yacht
Central
, Florida
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,489
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbob2
This is so cool! Your built in solar oven!
Bob
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All you would need is a big roll of saran wrap, install a rotissery instead of door handle put on the chicken sounds better than the old manifold meal.
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09-21-2009, 12:28 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
1953 17' Clipper
Mendon
, Vermont
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 396
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Xbob2
This is so cool! Your built in solar oven!
Bob
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Well, Bob I'm glad you could make me laugh! (The thought of my trailer burning up doesn't make me real happy.)
I think when I take pictures on the next sunny day, I'll see how long it will take me to cook a couple of eggs!
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09-21-2009, 01:04 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1962 28' Ambassador
1962 30' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Webster Groves
, Missouri
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 309
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pinktrailer
Well, Bob I'm glad you could make me laugh! (The thought of my trailer burning up doesn't make me real happy.)
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Actually the door only gets direct sun when it's open ... (I know someone will point out sun coming in the window opposite the door when door closed) ... soooooo your trailer is OK ... you'll just set fire to someone else's trailer so no problem!
Bob
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09-21-2009, 01:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Fried an egg...
Quote:
Originally Posted by CanoeStream
InsideOut posted once about seeing the polished inside of a door concentrate the sun when it was open.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pinktrailer
...I'll see how long it will take me to cook a couple of eggs!
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I've done it! It's pretty funny to watch the expressions of the faces of people that asked what I was doing! I like to do this during Open Houses at Rallies - but usually have the awning up which helps prevent this from happening.
The large black strip is where the reflection melted our nylon carpet...
I also have made a snap on cover, from Sunbrella fabric that matches our awning, to shield the concave door when open. It can be seen here:
Shari
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09-21-2009, 01:21 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
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How eggciting!
You guys should go to Oatman, AZ.
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09-21-2009, 01:25 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mistral blue
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Sounds like fun...with a population of 159, I wonder how they'd feel about an outsider pulling in for the challenge?
Gotta love those small towns...
Shari
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09-21-2009, 01:39 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
1953 17' Clipper
Mendon
, Vermont
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 396
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My reflection looks eggsactly like Shari's
Well, Shari, we ought to compete in that Egg Challenge next year! Ha Ha. My reflection looks "eggsactly" like yours! My ground cloth is painted canvas, so I don't have any burn spots. I guess that I will be very careful about leaving the door open when I don't have the awning up.
Where did you put the snaps for your door cover?
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09-21-2009, 02:00 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pinktrailer
Well, Shari, we ought to compete in that Egg Challenge next year! Ha Ha. My reflection looks "eggsactly" like yours! My ground cloth is painted canvas, so I don't have any burn spots. I guess that I will be very careful about leaving the door open when I don't have the awning up.
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That sure would be fun...
Quote:
Originally Posted by pinktrailer
Where did you put the snaps for your door cover?
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There is enough room at the top & bottom edges (facing up & down, not out) on our door-within-a-door for them to fit there. I would imagine on some doors they would have to go on the face of the door at the corners or something...the inside of our main door is Zolatone'd so it's not a problem - when it's open, it covers the inner door with the screen and it's not polished.
That reminds me, I'm going to have to make a door cover for our Safari before next summer...we're going to have the same problem ~
Shari
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09-21-2009, 02:29 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 34' Classic
Westchester Cty.NY
, / Miami FL
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,122
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it hasn't started any fires but the unpolished trailer does brown the grass on the sunny side of the trailer, even in the winter in Miami.
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09-21-2009, 03:24 PM
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Moderator Emeritus
1964 26' Overlander
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
Anna
, Illinois
Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 5,718
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Anyone Ever Start a Fire?????
I haven't seen any fires, but have witnessed the holes burned in plastic ground mats of three different highly polished Vintage Airstreams. Two of them were witnessed on the same caravan . . . 1999 Wagon Wheels to Dayton, OH - - both Tom Howarth ('53 Flying Cloud) and Bill Scott ('61 Bambi) had holes burned in their ground covers during that caravan by their highly polished coaches. A few year later on another Wagon Wheels Caravan, Ed Emerick ('68 Sovereign) had the same thing happen. All three of these owners were recognized at one or more WBCCI International Rallys by the Vintage Airstream Club for the polish jobs on their coaches.
Kevin
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WBCCI (Lifetime Member)/VAC #7864
AIR #827
1964 Overlander International
1978 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
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09-21-2009, 04:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 31' Sovereign
Texas Airstream Harbor
, Zavalla, in the Deep East Texas Piney Woods on Lake Sam Rayburn
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 2,435
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Polished Airstream - Documented Fire Hazard
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"Suck it up, spend the bucks, do it right the first time."
WBCCI # 1113
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Trailer '78 31' Sovereign
Living Large at an Airstream Park on the Largest Lake Totally Contained in Texas
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09-21-2009, 05:11 PM
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#17
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4 Rivet Member
1967 26' Overlander
1953 17' Clipper
Mendon
, Vermont
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 396
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Dennis--I guess that I have to be really careful where I park it. Thanks for the pictures. My biggest problem seems to be with the door open. I have no problem with my '67, as the door is painted. I just have a general "dead grass" area about five feet out from the south side.
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12-31-2012, 05:19 AM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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Too funny.
(Yet more good reasons to never buy an ALCLAD-skinned TT)
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12-31-2012, 09:19 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1976 29' Ambassador
Madison
, Officially SD but are traveling full time.
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 335
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We spent the summer in a stand of pines near Flagstaff, AZ. Took 6 weeks to finish the intermediate (Nuvite C) polish job. In October we relocated in the lower desert. Any plastic that is left next to the AS (door mat, hose insulation, etc.) melts in the irregular parabolic patterns that are formed by the rivets and dents and that cast the focused sunlight downward. No fires but we did install a set of awnings to limit some of the damage.
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