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04-25-2017, 04:21 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2009 19' Flying Cloud
Monroe
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
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2009 19' corrosion issues.
I've done a bunch of searching though the forums. Please excuse me if i missed it. I'm a newbie on this site. I have had this 2009 Airstream since new. Over the last couple years I've had this strange thing happening that looks like little white worm trails under the clear coat. The dealer says nothing can be done about it without striping it and re-clearing it for big $$$$$. I Walberize it really well every 6-8 months but these little corrosion spots are driving me nuts, and becoming more frequent. I'm to the point of where I want to strip all the clear-coat and polish this baby up. I see tons of info on striping and polishing old vintage trailers but haven't seen anything about newer Airstreams. Could someone point me in the right direction, or is it exactly the same as the older versions. Strip with aircraft aluminium stripper etc? Thank you for all your help, excited to be part of this forum for more info. Sorry it took me so long to sign up.
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04-25-2017, 04:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1986 31' Sovereign
Miami
, Florida
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Well, you have filiform corrosion. Unsightly but not serious. To minimize, after a good washing, when thoroughly dry, treat all the edges around Windows, seams, door cutouts with Boeshield or Corrossion X. Both of these products will seal the edges where water is wicking up under the factory applied clear coat.
Do a forum search for "filiform" and you should get better instructions than mine.
As for stripping and polishing, that is well out of my league...
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04-25-2017, 04:46 PM
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Site Team
2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
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2009 19' corrosion issues.
Your airstream has an Alcoa skin with an impregnated clear coat that is performed chemically at the time when Alcoa manufactured the panels. You cannot "strip", "polish" or "reseal" that skin. It's not bare aluminum like an old airstream.
Full panel replacement is the only option which is even bigger $$$.
Sorry about the bad news, but filiform is what it is on late model airstreams.
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04-25-2017, 05:30 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 25' Excella
2011 19' Flying Cloud
Santa Ynez
, California
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 1,185
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And there is the paint option, again $$$ though.
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04-25-2017, 06:37 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2009 19' Flying Cloud
Monroe
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
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Have any of you run into the issue with what looks like little white worms zig zagging under the clear coat? I was told its a type of corrosion. Any idea how to get rid of it?
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04-25-2017, 06:39 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2009 19' Flying Cloud
Monroe
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 7
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OK thank you for the info. The strange thing is, it's nowhere near a window or seam. Right strait in the middle of a couple different panels.
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04-25-2017, 07:33 PM
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Rivet Master
2002 19' Bambi
Lafayette
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 1,554
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hvacow1
Have any of you run into the issue with what looks like little white worms zig zagging under the clear coat? I was told its a type of corrosion. Any idea how to get rid of it?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hvacow1
OK thank you for the info. The strange thing is, it's nowhere near a window or seam. Right strait in the middle of a couple different panels.
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As noted above, it is filiform corrosion and you can find a lot about it using the search function for the Forum.
Filiform corrosion can start almost any place where the Alcoa "clearcoat" is damaged. Such damage can be in the middle of a panel because of sand and gravel being thrown up from the road. Also, think sandstorm.
Tim
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04-25-2017, 09:01 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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This past November and December we parked our Airstream near and on the beaches of the Calif Central Coast, heavy surf and plenty of wind. Possibly the worst case exposure to salt spray and filiform corrosion, unless towing in northern winter road salt.
Before we parked there we sprayed the underbody steel, and wiped the entire shell down liberally with CorrosionX. After leaving we washed the Airstream and underbody and rinsed using lots of water. The result this spring was no corrosion whatsoever on or under our Airstream. We have been using CorrosionX on the shell seams and accessories, and Boeshield T9 on the underbody steel regularly since we purchased it new, no corrosion anywhere in six years.
This won't fix any corrosion you already have, but it will definitely slow it from progressing and prevent new corrosion.
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04-26-2017, 02:01 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2009 19' Flying Cloud
Monroe
, Washington
Join Date: Apr 2017
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Did a bunch of research over the last two days. Even called Alcoa. The aluminum is treated with a special clear coat. BUT it can be stripped it is not impregnated into the aluminum. They just use some sort of electrolysis to adhere it to the aluminum better than in the past. Also the trailer can be polished to a mirror shine just like old-school Airstreams. I've also spoke with a company on the east coast that specializes in polishing and they have done quite a few newer models. As new as a 2014. They quoted me $6500.00 for my 19' bambi (yikes!!) So good news is that it can be done. It is a bit more difficult. They said to do it in small sections. Put on aircraft remover (stripper) glove up and use fine steel wool (can only be purchased online) while the aircraft remover is on. Then hose it off. After you've stripped the whole thing its business as usual. Polish polish polish.
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04-26-2017, 02:23 PM
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Site Team
2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,555
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Hundreds of man hours for that job. And then you have the privilege of maintaining the bar finish every year sounds like fun
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04-26-2017, 02:47 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2012 22' FB Sport
2003 19' Bambi
Port Townsend
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 279
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Definitely can be done. This is not mine, but it's a 2009 like yours.
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04-26-2017, 04:05 PM
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:SPACE A" S/O 11 Air19745
2006 34' Classic S/O
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 1,766
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Are you sure they said steel wool and not aluminum wool? Steel wool particles would imbed in the surface and rust big time. I have seen airplanes ruined that way with no alternative left except painting. Never use steel wool on aluminum.
guskmg
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04-26-2017, 04:46 PM
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Site Team
2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,555
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NWGetaways
Definitely can be done. This is not mine, but it's a 2009 like yours.
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Now I'll admit that trailer looks awesome!
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04-26-2017, 05:18 PM
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Site Team
2017 30' International
Broomfield
, Colorado
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 3,555
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wulfraat
Your airstream has an Alcoa skin with an impregnated clear coat that is performed chemically at the time when Alcoa manufactured the panels. You cannot "strip", "polish" or "reseal" that skin. It's not bare aluminum like an old airstream.
Full panel replacement is the only option which is even bigger $$$.
Sorry about the bad news, but filiform is what it is on late model airstreams.
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I stand corrected! Apologies for the incorrect information. Not shy to say that I was wrong and I learned something new today
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04-26-2017, 09:49 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 23' FB International
Woodstock
, Ontario
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,423
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hvacow1
Did a bunch of research over the last two days. Even called Alcoa. The aluminum is treated with a special clear coat. BUT it can be stripped it is not impregnated into the aluminum. They just use some sort of electrolysis to adhere it to the aluminum better than in the past. .
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I suspect they use electrostatic powder-coating application then bake it on the panel. Similar to automotive painting. The powder covers evenly as the coating builds up, no liquids to handle and no runs
JCW
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